re: Stolen rifles

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Like I said

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No worse feeling. Jeez, I hate what's coming. I am going to have to put out dirty laundry that is sickening,and it will be hard for people to believe.

They ain't give us trouble before that we ain't brought down on ourselves.

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Now if I bought my brother one and he turned out to be a shite head that's still his gun and I have no right to it. The other gun I would want back but being his big brother I would just beat his arse and take back my gun.

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All of that is true,the one rifle, I gave it to him, I even told the police this fact. I don't go back on that shite. I just want to do a legal transfer.
I also need to prove in court,that he had more firearms than I did.The problem is,when the police stormed the house,he was the victim on the phone.
They didn't even search to see if he had any firearms. He was actually armed better than me. I don't know if he set it all up,or it was just luck,and he moved the guns later. I was in jail.

The one thing I keep thinking about,my brother knows that I keep shitloads of life insurance,for my wife,my daughters and my Mom.
He could have very easily gotten me killed that day, I just happened to see the cops out of the kitchen window,put down my gun and walked on out.
my brother had acted like he left,but sneaked back into the house when I was downstairs in the basement.
I found out several days later,that he was in the house.
I know the truth..I think the cops now realize the truth,but they have to back their original position to avoid liability. Shitty thing.

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Unless you are leaving something out he did not steal anything, he has a gift and a loaner.

You both need to grow up and stop involving the police in your lives, nothing good can come from it

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I guess you missed the part about there being more than 1 weapon. Maybe that's why you are a caveman. I agree with you about leaving the police out. They show up at your house with all the lights flashing,and it takes years for everyone to forget.
It was easy for my brother to do though.If everything goes according to plan,he has an almost free house when my Mom dies( she is 77 now) The worst that could happen: He has to leave. Be the first caller.
I see now where you mentioned the loaner, that was the model 60 stainless. Understand what I explain below.
When I loaned it to him, he was trying to buy a cabin near Huntsville,Al. I was making his payments for him,because he always had some kind of problem.
As soon as papers were signed on the new house,and I was out of town,he moved himself in along with My Mom.
He said his circuit box burnt up at the cabin,and he might freeze.

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Dude I couldn't imagine your situation because my brother and I are close as shite.

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That's the way it is supposed to be. In our case,something is really fricked up,and most of the time, I think I am the only one that doesn't know.

I wrote my mother a check on (I think) dec 21,2016,for 6,000 bucks,labeled it a gift,on the same day, I paid the payment on my brothers cabin. My bank has the details,because I used my card, I know it was that timeframe.

No, you claim

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I bought a rifle for a close family membe

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and

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I also let him borrow a Marlin Model 60

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then state

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He left,but took both rifles.

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he did not steal anything, he needs to return what was borrowed in a reasonable period of time but this does not constitute theft.

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Maybe that's why you are a caveman.

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Sounds like you are bitter that your mother favors him reading through your post, that does not make him a thief in this situation though.

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You know what? For the most part I would agree with you,except that he hid the weapons, and pretended to be helpless. Had the Swat team come save him.
I got the surprise of my life.
Lucky I am here to type. Oh, He also had a full grown pitbull he moved into my house,but somehow,it wasn't there when the police showed up. Get it?

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I get that he seems to be a POS from your description, that does not make him a thief in this scenario however. You seem to have tried your best to help him out and it sucks it turned out this way.

Just try to be the better man and let it go, using the cops to hammer him is not going to be remembered fondly by either yourself or your family as the years pass by.

JMHO

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shite, I really don't give a frick, They can have everything and kiss my arse goodbye,except for 1 thing.

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You will care as time passes.

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If you get convicted of anything labeled domestic violence,even a misdemeanor, you can never legally buy another gun.
It has to be scorched Earth.

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While you may dig his hole deeper if you wish it will have no bearing on your status with a domestic violence charge, being "right" can cost you dearly here.

I have a feeling that more happened than him just calling the cops out of the blue, they don't care who is right or wrong or if he hid a gun or his dog was AWOL, stop confusing the law with what you feel is "right". None of that has any bearing on a DV charge.

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I have reported both stolen,because now I am afraid what will happen with them.

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Based on what you've told us here, you may have committed a crime yourself. If 1 of them is his, and the other yours, only 1 of them is stolen.

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The problem is,when the police stormed the house,

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damn dude, what the hell