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Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:00 am to
If you want a crossbred Silver lab just buy the Weimaraner and be done with it
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:25 am to
A lot of old school guys thought that. It turns out to not be true but for years and years, only blacks ran field trials. There is no, zero, none, difference due to coat color.

Btw - THERE IS ONLY 3 COLORS OF LABS - BLACK, YELLOW, CHOCOLATE. Silver, red, etc. all fall into one of those.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:43 am to
I am not a fan of animals bred for appearances only. Getting a pup is kinda a crap shoot on personality already, taking an animal where the number 1 most desirable characteristic is coat color makes me wonder if other non desirable characteristics are being ignored.

I have been around a lot of these reds, whites, and one silver, I see a lot of disappointed owners.

The absolute two best dogs I have seen lately are both blacks that came from a local person that breeds occasionally. I am in line and guarding it closely, as they are cheap and they are probably only putting out one more litter.
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

A lot of old school guys thought that. It turns out to not be true but for years and years, only blacks ran field trials. There is no, zero, none, difference due to coat color.


I don't disagree with you totally. But there is something to be said about the countless superior black genetics in the FT world compared to the lack thereof with the other two colors. Yes, there are great Chocolates and Yellows, but......nothing compares to the proven success of the blacks.
Posted by djrunner
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:27 pm to
If you really want to get technical, red labs came before yellow in the AKC breeding stock. And there are two types of yellow labs a true yellow (lack of a better description) and a Dudley. Dudley's are actually a descendent of Choco's, they are not as highly coveted as pure yellows. They are recognizable by there pink pigmentation at birth. There are many color variations of yellows which includes red and white, maybe even silver I'm not sure.
But if you read about silver Labs, they are not highly regarded as pets or working dogs.
Posted by Manchac Man
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:30 pm to
Dudley = no Bueno
Posted by Cracker
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 3:08 pm to
stop this shite please
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:26 pm to
Silvers also can have wiemerriemer (sp?) in them.

Dudleys I thought were dq'd from trials and shows. Something about a lack of being pure bred or something.

Posted by woff32
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/19/16 at 12:31 am to
Buy whatever color or type of dog that you want, but make sure to find a responsible breeder that is doing the right tests and guarantee their litters for at least two years. You can buy a black, yellow, or chocolate that have crappy genetics and you will have the same issues. Do your homework and find a good breeder that doesn't take any short cuts.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/19/16 at 12:35 am to
This thread is killing me....

Please stop with the "Silver" Lab nonsense.

The consistent breeders in the Eukanuba and Westminster crew would laugh anyone out of the room with their silver lab crap.

It is a sad state of affairs in the Lab community when assholes with less than reputable breeding stock, breeding pedigrees, and all around dick off blood lines try to peddle silver-labs as anything other than half breed-bastard weimeraner dogs....

Sorry but call Kendall Herr at Dickendall Labs and ask for a Silver. Or look her kennel up in any Labrador Book in Barnes and Nobles or Amazon.

Dickendall Labradors

The amount of ignorance regarding Labradors on this board is appalling.

<----4th Generation Dickendall Owner.
This post was edited on 11/19/16 at 12:47 am
Posted by DeepSouthSportsman
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Posted on 11/19/16 at 4:23 am to
Why are you so mad bro
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/19/16 at 10:54 am to
I assume you are just replying to the thread and not me directly. The AKC Standard for colors in Labs is:

quote:

Color: The Labrador Retriever coat colors are black, yellow and chocolate. Any other color or a combination of colors is a disqualification. A small white spot on the chest is permissible, but not desirable. White hairs from aging or scarring are not to be misinterpreted as brindling. Black Blacks are all black. A black with brindle markings or a black with tan markings is a disqualification. Yellow-Yellows may range in color from fox-red to light cream, with variations in shading on the ears, back, and underparts of the dog. Chocolate-Chocolates can vary in shade from light to dark chocolate. Chocolate with brindle or tan markings is a disqualification.


Simply put - three (3) colors only.

I am not sure I have ever heard off Dickendall Labradors my labs have historically come from Candlewoods' stock or other FC/AFC bred dogs.

My last dog was from this guy - Izzy

It looks like Dickendall likes the show ring more than athletic dogs. I don't care for show dogs much I care about confirmation, but I want my dog to be an athlete.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/19/16 at 11:22 am to
We have a black lab with a small white chest patch, apparently border collie %age. He really is a very sweet family type dog, never bites, is obedient in most cases, and is very smart. He is 6+ yrs old and is quite assertive around other dogs.

He tries to leg hump every new visitor, gets excited over delivery trucks (UPS, FEDEX, etc.), and chews the hell out of crocs.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5643 posts
Posted on 11/19/16 at 11:34 am to
Candlewoods was as good as it gets at one point.

Lottie

Word on the street was she was sold $250k.

Posted by LessofLes
Member since Sep 2010
1685 posts
Posted on 11/19/16 at 11:49 am to
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Color alone has absolutely no bearing on how your dog will turn out. O, zip, none, notta. That being said there are 3 colors of labs- black, yellow and chocolate. I'm not commenting on any other bastardized color


Amen. I wish I could give you more up votes.

I've owned a yellow and a black. Yellow was a beast of a retriever, smart and loving. The black was sweet, loving but not driven like the yellow. Currently have a chocolate that came from a silver dad. Sweet as can be and retrieves well.

I refuse to recognize silvers as a pure lab. If I would have wanted a Weimaraner I would have bought one.
This post was edited on 11/19/16 at 11:53 am
Posted by WPBTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/19/16 at 1:12 pm to
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Color alone has absolutely no bearing on how your dog will turn out. O, zip, none, notta. That being said there are 3 colors of labs- black, yellow and chocolate. I'm not commenting on any other bastardized color


100% this ^^^^^
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10400 posts
Posted on 11/19/16 at 5:32 pm to
A croc chewer had to be 100% Lab.
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/19/16 at 5:43 pm to
+1 Color is irrelevant

My current chocolate is a wonderful dog and smart.

I have seen chocolates that are batshit crazy.

My previous yellow was smart but was like a bull in the China shop.he had no awareness of his size.

Point is when the only trait you are breeding into your bloodline is coat color you do so at the expense of other traits such as temperament and intelligence.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29977 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

you really want to get technical, red labs came before yellow in the AKC breeding stock. And there are two types of yellow labs a true yellow (lack of a better description) and a Dudley. Dudley's are actually a descendent of Choco's, they are not as highly coveted as pure yellows. They are recognizable by there pink pigmentation at birth. There are many color variations of yellows which includes red and white, maybe even silver I'm not sure.
But if you read about silver Labs, they are not highly regarded as pets or working dogs.



Well, it's always good when people post crap to show they are just making stuff up.

From the AKC Breed standards for Labs

quote:

Color: The Labrador Retriever coat colors are black, yellow and chocolate. Any other color or a combination of colors is a disqualification. A small white spot on the chest is permissible, but not desirable. White hairs from aging or scarring are not to be misinterpreted as brindling.

Black - Blacks are all black. A black with brindle markings or a black with tan markings is a disqualification.

Yellow - Yellows may range in color from fox-red to light cream, with variations in shading on the ears, back, and underparts of the dog.

Chocolate - Chocolates can vary in shade from light to dark chocolate. Chocolate with brindle or tan markings is a disqualification.
Posted by mack the knife
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:55 pm to
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silver lab


= brain damaged. stay away
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