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re: SIAP - Duck Commander's in trouble with the gays.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:28 pm to Bleeding purple
Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:28 pm to Bleeding purple
quote:That's money right there bro.
So wait, the people who most often get up on a pedestal to preach about tolerance, acceptance, free speech, and freedom of action have a problem with another person stating their own personal beliefs. Shocking! Shocking, I tell you!
Maybe it is because he stated his opinion that certain actions are sinful based on his interpretation the bible. Of course, others openly state their opinion that it is not a sin based on their interpretation of disregard for the bible. So certainly it cant be that considering, the universal desire for free speech.
Maybe because he placed this opinion into the public realm somehow forcing others to be exposed to his form of thinking or beliefs, albeit easy to simply not read the article or watch the show. But, I am sure that is not the reason. I mean, certain communities strongly hold to the right to publicly display their beliefs and behavior with parades, staged week long events at children's parks, and increasing prevalence in TV shows and movies, regardless of how avoidable experiencing these are for the general public. Clearly then the semi public nature of these comments are not where the outrage is coming from.
Maybe, just maybe, those with such strong beliefs of tolerance, acceptance, and freedom of speech are a bit confused on just what those things truly are.
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:44 pm to Bleeding purple
quote:
Maybe, just maybe, those with such strong beliefs of tolerance, acceptance, and freedom of speech are a bit confused on just what those things truly are.
BP, you are a true wordsmith and I always enjoy reading your posts.
Below is the response from Larry West, Missy Robertson's Father:
quote:
Thank you for you countless messages of support. There are so many I cannot answer you all. I just want to ask you, before you write any protests, please pray about it first. If you claim Christ or not, in your objection be strong but be respectful. Remember, A&E took a courageous leap initially placing the Robertsons on their channel. And A&E has taken much heat. Acknowledge that and show appreciation.
We must help each other understand that there is a difference between a person's worth and his behavior. As that applies to children growing up, it applies also to adults! God makes us valuable! That is why he died to pay the penalty of our action when it becomes unacceptable conduct. And we learn what is unacceptable conduct through what HE says in His Bible ... and that applies to all of us. And it's not up to a vote. He is Supreme Lord. HE tells us what is right and wrong conduct. So, may we listen, then respectively and lovingly help each other get to Heaven.
Thank God for the good! And encourage it!
Thank you...
Larry West
Preach, Larry, preach.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:07 pm to LongDuckDong
They came out with a statement on the DC website. Looks like no more duck dynasty on a&e. Btw if y'all are looking to get good and mad put on piers Morgan right now. The leftist fricks are out in full force.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:22 pm to tigersownall
quote:
"We want to thank all of you for your prayers and support. The family has spent much time in prayer since learning of A&E's decision. We want you to know that first and foremost we are a family rooted in our faith in God and our belief that the Bible is His word. While some of Phil’s unfiltered comments to the reporter were coarse, his beliefs are grounded in the teachings of the Bible. Phil is a Godly man who follows what the Bible says are the greatest commandments: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart' and 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Phil would never incite or encourage hate.We are disappointed that Phil has been placed on hiatus for expressing his faith, which is his constitutionally protected right.We have had a successful working relationship with A&E but, as a family, we cannot imagine the show going forward without our patriarch at the helm. We are in discussions with A&E to see what that means for the future of Duck Dynasty. Again, thank you for your continued support of our family."
Told ya'll.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:23 pm to DrTyger
quote:
had
Key word there.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:34 pm to DrTyger
They gone.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 6:37 am to DrTyger
quote:
ere's what I predict will happen:
1. Duck Dynasty is dead. We have seen the last episode. The family will not film any more shows without the man who started it all.
2. Another show starring the family will be picked up by a different network, probably CMT.
3. A&E, which went from being an barely noticeable network to one of the most watched on cable thanks to Duck Dynasty, will go back to being irrelevant. They'll continue to air re-runs of Storage Wars, Criminal Minds, and try to force things like Rodeo Girls down our throats, but in they'll never attract another audience even a fraction of the size Duck Dynasty did.
4. Duck Commander will be more successful than ever. All other things aside, they make a great product and 3-4 seasons of a reality show only gave them more exposure.
5. Phil Robertson will continue not to give a shite about a TV show, being suspended, or Barbara Walters. He will continue to hunt ducks and love God. More power to him for that.
6. Not a single gay person will be at all inconvenienced by the opinion of a 67 year old devout Christian, other than having to un-bunch their panties.
So, ironically, the only person I see losing from all of this is the A&E network.
I have no idea what will ultimately happen, but if I'd have documented my guesses, it would have looked exactly like yous.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:38 am to TigerTreyjpg
quote:
Duck Commander will be more successful than ever.
Seems to already be a steady backlash against DD with a push to DC products. Don't know if that is coming from DC itself or from the supporters that have rallied too support the cause.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:50 am to Pepperidge
100% Phil.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:26 am to TigerTreyjpg
My post of OT:
GLAAD = Al Sharptons/Jessie Jacksons of the non-straight community...only shriller.
Not interested in getting along...just attacking, harming and instilling fear.
GLAAD = Al Sharptons/Jessie Jacksons of the non-straight community...only shriller.
Not interested in getting along...just attacking, harming and instilling fear.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 9:52 am to LongDuckDong
quote:
Thank you for you countless messages of support. There are so many I cannot answer you all. I just want to ask you, before you write any protests, please pray about it first. If you claim Christ or not, in your objection be strong but be respectful. Remember, A&E took a courageous leap initially placing the Robertsons on their channel. And A&E has taken much heat. Acknowledge that and show appreciation.
We must help each other understand that there is a difference between a person's worth and his behavior. As that applies to children growing up, it applies also to adults! God makes us valuable! That is why he died to pay the penalty of our action when it becomes unacceptable conduct. And we learn what is unacceptable conduct through what HE says in His Bible ... and that applies to all of us. And it's not up to a vote. He is Supreme Lord. HE tells us what is right and wrong conduct. So, may we listen, then respectively and lovingly help each other get to Heaven.
Thank God for the good! And encourage it!
Thank you...
Larry West
So he basically just said a bunch of praise Jesus hooplah and nothing of any substance?
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:34 am to dnm3305
the original pic
the better version
the better version
This post was edited on 12/20/13 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:54 pm to Bama and Beer
Best article so far:
By Joe Flint
December 20, 2013, 1:12 p.m.
Sometimes it is best to see if a fire will extinguish itself naturally rather than try to put it out.
That's something A&E might have considered before rushing to pull Phil Robertson from filming of the network's hit reality show "Duck Dynasty," about the Robertson family's duck hunting business.
To refresh: Phil Robertson gave his unfiltered views on gays (sinful) and blacks in the pre-civil rights era (seemed pretty happy to him) in an interview with GQ. First there was outrage from those offended by Robertson's remarks and then there was outrage at those angry at A&E's decision to put Phil Robertson "under hiatus from filming indefinitely."
PHOTOS: Rednecks on TV generate greenbacks
The Robertson family has indicated that it may not want to continue with the show if its patriarch isn't involved. The Robertsons have a hugely successful business and have also been on TV before and will surely find a home somewhere else if need be.
In other words, A&E needs them more than they need A&E.
If A&E and its parent companies Hearst Corp. and Walt Disney Co. are really offended by what Robertson said, then cut ties to the family completely. Stop making the show and stop airing the reruns.
But if A&E is making moves out of fear of backlash and wants to protect its franchise, then it is doing neither the show nor itself any favors. It has only served to alienate "Duck Dynasty" fans and the family responsible for its biggest hit.
Indeed, the only winners are cable news channels, which are milking this for all its worth while waiting for the next car chase or snow storm to come along.
PHOTOS: Dysfunctional TV families
As media professor Jeffrey McCall of DePauw University told the Los Angeles Times, "If A&E wants the Robertsons to make money for the channel by being authentic, then at some point A&E has to accept that reality stars will be real human beings. If A&E didn't like the Robertsons as they are, then why did they give them a weekly platform?"
"Duck Dynasty" is a slice-of-life show. No one has to watch it. Obviously something about it has struck a chord with viewers. Of course, "All in the Family" also struck a chord and probably as many people were agreeing with Archie Bunker as were laughing at him.
Odds are that if A&E had let this play out a little and given Robertson room to make some sort of mea culpa, this would have died down. A&E could also have made clear that Robertson's remarks to GQ would be addressed on the show itself.
Now A&E has to decide who to bow to first -- pressure groups or the Robertsons. Either way it looks bad.
Once A&E figures out what to do, the next move will be to find out who gave the green light to GQ to have unfettered access to Phil Robertson.
ALSO:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-duck-dynasty-sitting-duck-20131220,0,2232480.story#ixzz2o4PS2lTu
LINK
By Joe Flint
December 20, 2013, 1:12 p.m.
Sometimes it is best to see if a fire will extinguish itself naturally rather than try to put it out.
That's something A&E might have considered before rushing to pull Phil Robertson from filming of the network's hit reality show "Duck Dynasty," about the Robertson family's duck hunting business.
To refresh: Phil Robertson gave his unfiltered views on gays (sinful) and blacks in the pre-civil rights era (seemed pretty happy to him) in an interview with GQ. First there was outrage from those offended by Robertson's remarks and then there was outrage at those angry at A&E's decision to put Phil Robertson "under hiatus from filming indefinitely."
PHOTOS: Rednecks on TV generate greenbacks
The Robertson family has indicated that it may not want to continue with the show if its patriarch isn't involved. The Robertsons have a hugely successful business and have also been on TV before and will surely find a home somewhere else if need be.
In other words, A&E needs them more than they need A&E.
If A&E and its parent companies Hearst Corp. and Walt Disney Co. are really offended by what Robertson said, then cut ties to the family completely. Stop making the show and stop airing the reruns.
But if A&E is making moves out of fear of backlash and wants to protect its franchise, then it is doing neither the show nor itself any favors. It has only served to alienate "Duck Dynasty" fans and the family responsible for its biggest hit.
Indeed, the only winners are cable news channels, which are milking this for all its worth while waiting for the next car chase or snow storm to come along.
PHOTOS: Dysfunctional TV families
As media professor Jeffrey McCall of DePauw University told the Los Angeles Times, "If A&E wants the Robertsons to make money for the channel by being authentic, then at some point A&E has to accept that reality stars will be real human beings. If A&E didn't like the Robertsons as they are, then why did they give them a weekly platform?"
"Duck Dynasty" is a slice-of-life show. No one has to watch it. Obviously something about it has struck a chord with viewers. Of course, "All in the Family" also struck a chord and probably as many people were agreeing with Archie Bunker as were laughing at him.
Odds are that if A&E had let this play out a little and given Robertson room to make some sort of mea culpa, this would have died down. A&E could also have made clear that Robertson's remarks to GQ would be addressed on the show itself.
Now A&E has to decide who to bow to first -- pressure groups or the Robertsons. Either way it looks bad.
Once A&E figures out what to do, the next move will be to find out who gave the green light to GQ to have unfettered access to Phil Robertson.
ALSO:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-duck-dynasty-sitting-duck-20131220,0,2232480.story#ixzz2o4PS2lTu
LINK
Posted on 12/20/13 at 8:14 pm to TutHillTiger
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