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Septoria leaf spot on tomatoes, pics further down

Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:47 am
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:47 am
Did my first raised garden this year. Cucumbers and peppers have been good. Tomatoes started out good until we had almost 3 weeks of straight rain. Now most of leaves and new stems are dying off, have been for a few weeks and tomatoes are ripening way too small. I planted a new tomatoe in a large container and within a few weeks it started doing the same.

Not really sure what to think b/c everything else is doing well. Does leaf spot just take over like that normally? Should I just pull the plants? Also curious about next year when I plant again. The area I have them is really only other area I can do a garden. I've been spraying with Bayer Natria insect and fungicide but it's not doing anything. Maybe in January of next year spray all around area with a better fungicide prior to planting so it won't come back?
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 9:21 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14787 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:03 am to
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Not really sure what to think b/c everything else is doing well. Does leaf spot just take over like that normally? Should I just pull the plants?


I've followed every preventative measure possible and still deal with fungal issues. When it stays wet constantly it makes it really difficult. I've been able to mitigate it for the most part. You don't really need to pull the plants unless the entire plant is affected. Prune the bad leaves off and burn them, or bag them and put them in the trash. Don't compost them. Spray the remaining healthy part of the plant with fungicide.

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Also curious about next year when I plant again. The area I have them is really only other area I can do a garden. I've been spraying with Bayer Natria insect and fungicide but it's not doing anything. Maybe in January of next year spray all around area with a better fungicide prior to planting so it won't come back?


Daconil is probably the home garderners best friend when it comes to fungicide. I've also used liquid copper fungicide with some success. I've read that copper is actually better on bacterial spot. So I spray both. Most fungicides are preventatives and don't actually kill the fungus. So I'm not sure if spraying the area will do much. Look into soil solarization. I will be doing this to my garden within the coming weeks cause all of my plants are just about done. Unless someone has some other info, it's the only thing I have found in my research that will actually kill soilborne fungal pathogens.

Also, rotating your crops should also help mitigate disease.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:12 am to







Last pick they are all ripening way smaller than they were before
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 9:19 am
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:14 am to
Thanks for response. Buddy of mine who grows them every year said his have been struggling also. I used to plant years back straight in the ground but live in the city now and went with raised bed.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:42 am to
Had one guy recommend mixing water and bleach and spraying area down late in year and early part of next year. Then doing what I asked about hitting it with fungicide again prior to planting. He said to take out as much of my soil from raised bed as I can prior to bleaching it. Then put a new load in at plant time. Kind of unsure about the whole bleaching part
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14787 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:56 am to
My understanding is that bleach will kill fungus, but it takes a lot of bleach. I would be worried about altering the soil pH with too much bleach. It'll also probably kill all of the beneficial organisms.

Putting in new dirt could also bring in new problems. So if you do that, treat the dirt after.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:59 am to
Yea that was what I was worried about. I just bought manure, miracle grow raised bed soil, and mulch for this garden.
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2501 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:17 am to
Where did you buy the plants? Those Bonnie brand from Walmart etc. are notorious for spotted wilt. They come from Florida. Louisiana variety from a local nursery tend to do much better.

Also- rain is what it is and not much you can do about it other than spray and hope.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:20 am to
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Where did you buy the plants? Those Bonnie brand from Walmart etc. are notorious for spotted wilt.


I have this exact problem with my tomatoes, and sure enough they were Bonnie brand.

I'll be starting from seed next year though so hopefully won't be an issue.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:24 am to
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Where did you buy the plants?


Lowes, and yea Bonnie plants. I'll definitely be going local nursery next year.
I actually first went to local nursery but they didn't have them in yet so I just went to Lowes, dumb impatient me.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 10:33 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14787 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:35 am to
I used to get the Bonnie plants too. I've been starting everything from seed the last couple years and have had fewer problems. There's a couple of other benefits to that. It's cheaper, and you can sell or give away your extras. I usually give my extras to family and friends.
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
1596 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:43 am to
Yep, had the same issue, didn't relize what was going on until late. Sprayed with copper and it fixed it but most of the leaves rotted off. Have a ton of tomatoes tuning ripe now so don't kill the plants but they aren't going to keep making I'm sure.
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
1596 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:00 pm to
Yep, had the same issue, didn't relize what was going on until late. Sprayed with copper and it fixed it but most of the leaves rotted off. Have a ton of tomatoes tuning ripe now so don't kill the plants but they aren't going to keep making I'm sure.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:08 pm to
Consider yourseld lucky. I just had to have a white oak cut down that was about 10' from my garden. I no longer have a garden and EVERYTHING was finally coming in.
Posted by jwsnatic
TX
Member since Jun 2012
42 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:16 pm to
I was having same issue. I noticed that at night, even when it wasn't raining my plants would stay wet due to dew/condensation. I moved my containers to a table by my AC units so they they would get hot air blown on them every time the AC came on. The leaf spot went away and I didn't need to spray at all. Plants ended up doing really well.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26451 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:54 pm to
Buy your plants from Stine. They use local nurseries im addition to Bonnie
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13529 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:28 pm to
Got the same ones from lowes that did the same thing...lesson lernt
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