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School me on Beretta 9 mm. Please
Posted on 6/25/16 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 6/25/16 at 3:56 pm
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Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:05 pm to zeebo
uhh....which one?
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:18 pm to Carson123987
Get a Glock 19
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:35 pm to zeebo
It's Italian and made by the oldest gun manufacturer in the world.
Does that clear things up?
Does that clear things up?
This post was edited on 6/25/16 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:36 pm to Carson123987
Carson - any M1A scope mount rec's?
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:38 pm to Easternrio
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Get a Glock 19
Wrong, get a German gun.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:40 pm to zeebo
assuming you're talking about the 92fs...
It's reliable and accurate, albeit very large and heavy for a 9mm. External hammer with a slide mounted safety/decocker. DA/SA, if you like that.
Can't change the sights without milling the front b/c the front sight is a part of the slide. I forget if the rear is the same or if it's dovetailed in there.
IMO it's to big for the caliber and capacity. Compare it to a glock 19 (same capacity) in a store and you'll see what i mean. A Glock 17 will have more capacity and be similar size, although still quite a bit lighter.
It's reliable and accurate, albeit very large and heavy for a 9mm. External hammer with a slide mounted safety/decocker. DA/SA, if you like that.
Can't change the sights without milling the front b/c the front sight is a part of the slide. I forget if the rear is the same or if it's dovetailed in there.
IMO it's to big for the caliber and capacity. Compare it to a glock 19 (same capacity) in a store and you'll see what i mean. A Glock 17 will have more capacity and be similar size, although still quite a bit lighter.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:13 pm to CptRusty
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IMO it's to big for the caliber and capacity. Compare it to a glock 19 (same capacity) in a store and you'll see what i mean
This.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:26 pm to zeebo
I have a 92FS INOX. It has a big frame, is heavy, and is rather large in ones hand. I have big hands and I even added a hogue over molded grip to the original grip for it to fit me even better. It is accurate and trouble free. I don't conceal carry it but could if in the winter with a jacket. 
Posted on 6/25/16 at 9:38 pm to zeebo
The 92fs was my first gun and I still have it.
The Beretta has gotten a bad rep among military guys as some feel it is not an effective gun/round. And with NATO FMJ ammo I would tend to agree. With modern defense ammo the 9mm is great as a defensive round.
Some claim they don't play well in the sandbox but that is a matter of debate.
In my experience it has been rock solid reliable and I have 2 92GE2's that each have 30k plus rounds through them with no gun related failures. Most torture tests conducted by the military have failures (usually locking block) occurring well above 100k rounds.
I think the Glock is a superior design but the Beretta is a reliable and proven platform.
The Beretta has gotten a bad rep among military guys as some feel it is not an effective gun/round. And with NATO FMJ ammo I would tend to agree. With modern defense ammo the 9mm is great as a defensive round.
Some claim they don't play well in the sandbox but that is a matter of debate.
In my experience it has been rock solid reliable and I have 2 92GE2's that each have 30k plus rounds through them with no gun related failures. Most torture tests conducted by the military have failures (usually locking block) occurring well above 100k rounds.
I think the Glock is a superior design but the Beretta is a reliable and proven platform.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 10:16 pm to zeebo
Large frame combat 9mm. Accurate, durable, comfortable, not difficult to work on, plenty of parts and gear available for it. My 92FS is more fun to shoot than my 9mm Glock. The new M9A3 has improved ergonomics and a dovetailed front sight.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 10:25 pm to zeebo
92fs was my first handgun. Still have it. Still love it. Never had any problems. External safety/decocker is what sold me, being my first handgun and all.
Posted on 6/25/16 at 10:41 pm to CptRusty
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it's to big for the caliber and capacity.
I have the 92fs compact model - 13+1 in a smaller version of the 92fs. Incredibly accurate and it has been reliable for 20 years that I've owned it.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:36 am to zeebo
I'm a classic (all metal) Sig guy, so the weight isn't a problem for me.
What I don't like about the Beretta:
1. Safety
2. Crazy locking block
3. Rust
4. Trigger
5. Sights
What I like about it:
1. Semi-easy to field strip and clean
....and that's about it.
A lot of guys love them. More power to them. The platform is just not my cup of tea.
Italian firearm companies that start with B should stick to shotguns. That's all I'm saying.
What I don't like about the Beretta:
1. Safety
2. Crazy locking block
3. Rust
4. Trigger
5. Sights
What I like about it:
1. Semi-easy to field strip and clean
....and that's about it.
A lot of guys love them. More power to them. The platform is just not my cup of tea.
Italian firearm companies that start with B should stick to shotguns. That's all I'm saying.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:48 am to upgrayedd
Spend the money, get the Sadlak. I have one on. M1A NM w/Leupold Mark 4. Rock solid. The M1A has a lot of mass moving during recoil, other scope mounts can move, the Sadlak doesn't.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:48 am to Ace Midnight
I've yet to find a handgun that I can shoot as well as the M9
Take it fwiw
Take it fwiw
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:56 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I've yet to find a handgun that I can shoot as well as the M9
I've got the opposite problem. If I shot it better, I'd like it better.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:09 pm to zeebo
I've been shooting my 92fs for nearly 20 years. I personally love the platform and I am very efficient and accurate with the weapon. The only other handgun that I own that I can shoot just as well (if not better) is my PPQ. I guess it's a matter of preference/ergonomics with the sidearm. I've operated glock, sig, s&w, and Ruger. None of which handle better than my 92fs. Go try one out and see if it fits. It's a love it or hate it design. I happen to love it. The only issues I've ever had with it was a stovepipe problem, but that was a magazine issue. Yes it's heavy. Yes it's a bit cumbersome. The pros outweigh the cons by a mile for me.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:14 pm to Ace Midnight
It really pisses me off. I shoot it way better than any of my own pistols.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:21 pm to Mottleduk
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Yes it's heavy. Yes it's a bit cumbersome.
I'm a pretty open and honest critic of the platform, but - not so much a like, but a "it's not so bad" thing for it:
It's a full sized, all metal pistol. My experience may be more old school - I've had few polymer guns and didn't really like any of them. I had an old school, James Bond PPK as a pocket pistol for a brief period. Anyway, a lifetime ago, I was in a situation where I had to occasionally carry concealed, in the Balkans (don't ask). The 92 goes inside the waistband, under a sweater more comfortably and innocuously than you would think for a pistol of those dimensions. I'm sure my P226 would have been clunkier in the same configuration.
So, take that FWIW.
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