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SBRing an existing AR question
Posted on 8/8/15 at 10:49 am
Posted on 8/8/15 at 10:49 am
Been toying with SBRing my AR for a while.
Would you get a complete new upper or let a gun smith cut and barrel to the desired length? I'd figure the gun smith route to be a good bit cheaper, but I don't know if it's the way I should go or not
Would you get a complete new upper or let a gun smith cut and barrel to the desired length? I'd figure the gun smith route to be a good bit cheaper, but I don't know if it's the way I should go or not
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Posted on 8/8/15 at 10:52 am to Glock17
barrels are cheap, relatively speaking
I would just buy a new SBR barrel and swap it out
I would just buy a new SBR barrel and swap it out
Posted on 8/8/15 at 10:55 am to Glock17
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Been toying with SBRing my AR for a while.
I just wouldn't do it. Lowers are too cheap. You're asking for a nightmare - once you Form IV/NFA the weapon, it is impossible to go back, no matter what you do.
So, do a new build or get a completely new SBR over converting an existing non-NFA AR.
Just my $0.02.
This post was edited on 8/8/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 8/8/15 at 10:58 am to cgrand
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barrels are cheap, relatively speaking
I would just buy a new SBR barrel and swap it out
That's an option I hadn't really thought of. Is is pretty easy to change out, or something a gun smith should do?
Posted on 8/8/15 at 11:01 am to Glock17
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Is is pretty easy to change out, or something a gun smith should do?
If the barrel is lugged, it is a fairly easy swap - you have to be careful with the gas tube, and such, but handy individuals can do it. If you're dead set on doing this, I would sell your existing upper and buy a new, SBR one - just to make sure everything goes together.
This post was edited on 8/8/15 at 11:03 am
Posted on 8/8/15 at 12:48 pm to Glock17
It's easy. Bring it to bowie's and I'll do it
It's on only a pain if you have A Frame FSB with delta ring assembly
It's on only a pain if you have A Frame FSB with delta ring assembly
Posted on 8/8/15 at 12:56 pm to Carson123987
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It's easy. Bring it to bowie's and I'll do it
Any idea on a rough estimate?
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only a pain if you have A Frame FSB with delta ring assembly
I do have an A frame front site, but I'm not sure about the delta ring... It's an Ar I've had 10 years or so. Bushmaster
Posted on 8/8/15 at 1:03 pm to Glock17
I can't remember what we charge. I'll check when I recover from surgery. I'd suggest getting a free float handguard and low profile gas block. The setup you have isn't the optimum setup for an SBR. What caliber? What length gas tube?
This post was edited on 8/8/15 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/8/15 at 1:42 pm to Carson123987
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I can't remember what we charge. I'll check when I recover from surgery. I'd suggest getting a free float handguard and low profile gas block. The setup you have isn't the optimum setup for an SBR. What caliber? What length gas tube?
I would want to do the low profile gas block, but I'd have to check the gas tube length
Posted on 8/8/15 at 2:12 pm to Ace Midnight
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asking for a nightmare - once you Form IV/NFA the weapon, it is impossible to go back, no matter what you do.
bullshite. You can take a Form 1 lower back to legal by adding a barrel longer than 16. All requires is remove the parts that make it a SBR/SBS from your possession. Notify ATF with serial number of gun and request it be taken off of the registry.
This post was edited on 8/8/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 8/8/15 at 2:35 pm to Glock17
I would build or buy a new upper if you planned on changing out the hand guard and gas block.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 2:45 pm to DeoreDX
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by DeoreDX
I would build or buy a new upper if you planned on changing out the hand guard and gas block.
Yeah I'm thinking they'll be the way to do it. I was looking around at PSA today and they have some fairly inexpensive complete lowers
Posted on 8/8/15 at 2:58 pm to lsufan1971
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You can take a Form 1 lower back to legal by adding a barrel longer than 16. All requires is remove the parts that make it a SBR/SBS from your possession. Notify ATF with serial number of gun and request it be taken off of the registry.
Maybe so. I probably should have said, "difficult" to go back. I still say it is more trouble than it is worth.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 3:00 pm to Ace Midnight
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You can take a Form 1 lower back to legal by adding a barrel longer than 16. All requires is remove the parts that make it a SBR/SBS from your possession. Notify ATF with serial number of gun and request it be taken off of the registry.
Maybe so. I probably should have said, "difficult" to go back. I still say it is more trouble than it is worth.
Other than making the rifle easier to sell, why would you want it to go back to a non sbr?
Posted on 8/8/15 at 4:09 pm to Glock17
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Other than making the rifle easier to sell, why would you want it to go back to a non sbr?
A lot of folks experience the reduced ballistic performance and increased recoil from a SBR and decide to revert back to a longer barrel.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:29 pm to Ace Midnight
Why would there be increased recoil? Less weight?
Glock, how short are you wanting to go?
I have to get my lower engraved on tues on a SBR .300 aac.
Also, do you have a trust set up yet? It took me 4 months to get my e-file form 1 back.
Glock, how short are you wanting to go?
I have to get my lower engraved on tues on a SBR .300 aac.
Also, do you have a trust set up yet? It took me 4 months to get my e-file form 1 back.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:36 pm to bbvdd
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Why would there be increased recoil? Less weight?
And shorter barrel.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 6:19 pm to Ace Midnight
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And shorter barrel.
What does that have to do with recoil? I can see less weight but a gun (I'm talking rifles) with the same weight but a shorter barrel should have the exact same perceived recoil.
Posted on 8/8/15 at 8:21 pm to bbvdd
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Glock, how short are you wanting to go?
I have to get my lower engraved on tues on a SBR .300 aac.
Also, do you have a trust set up yet? It took me 4 months to get my e-file form 1 back.
I was thinking 10.5.... No trust yet... I'm in the early stages of trying to decide if I want to invest the money
Posted on 8/8/15 at 8:28 pm to Glock17
Mine is a 10.5 inch
Like I said haven't shot it yet but looking forward to it.
Like I said haven't shot it yet but looking forward to it.
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