re: Ruger American Ranch 300 Blackout

Try Bowies, Shooters, Bass Pro

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Clames

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Unless there is a manufacturing flaw, I don't see why any rifle today shouldn't be able to be an MOA gun. It is ludicrous to think the problems aren't with the shooter if they aren't MOA. Every one of my long guns has the ability to out shoot me

Eta: After shooting about 15 different types of ammo out of the same gun, I have discovered that there are huge differences between them all. Hell, I shot better with Thunderbolts (1.5" groups @ 50) than with match grade RWS (4-5" groups @ 50). Eley match shot 1.5 MOA and Federal Ultra Match 1 MOA (100yds for people who don't know what that means). Huge difference in price between those two, but not much of a significant accuracy difference. I can account those to me and the wind.

I doubt most people will be shooting past 200, so I don't know why everyone would even have a problem with 2 MOA

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Hell, I shot better with Thunderbolts (1.5" groups @ 50) than with match grade RWS (4-5" groups @ 50). Eley match shot 1.5 MOA and Federal Ultra Match 1 MOA (100yds for people who don't know what that means).

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Have a Tactical 10/22 that is the same way. Put the high dollar chit in there and decent consistency.
Put a load of Thunderbolts in there and that SOB will put a BX mag full of them into a quarter-sized group.


Of course one thing that people don't realize with rounds like a .22 is that when they transition back to subsonic downrange after coming out of the barrel at 1,300-1,450fps that some rounds just start spraying. At 50 yds they are still in happy land and group like no-ones business.

Sorry.
Up here in Upstate S.Carolina
Kind of works out good for consumers because we have Cabela's, Academy,Palmetto State Armory (PSA) and Dick's all within a half mile of each other.
Not to mention they are about to break Ground on a Bass Pro Shops store less than 6 miles up the road.

Good Times.

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Time for some of you to bring your "understanding" of certain things into the current decade. Those that haven't been paying attention missed the fact that Ruger made big manufacturing changes to the Mini- series of rifles and they are much better than 2-3 MOA with a competent shooter and the right ammo. Sub-MOA groups in broken in rifles and match loads are not impossible with them.

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Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but your post comes across rather condescending. If that's not your intention, then I stand corrected. There've been times that what I wrote something using satire on a forum but it wasn't perceived that way by others. Maybe that's the case here.

Let me share w/ you my perspective on the Mini-14. First, let me clarify my comment in my earlier post by saying that I'm referring to a stock Mini-14, not a gun that's had a lot of accuracy work done or a target barrel installed. I've got 2 close friends that have Mini-14's, one's an older gun while the other is only a few months old. Both friends are VERY competent shooters and skilled handloaders. Both guns are lucky to get groups of less than 2 1/2" MOA. In the case of the newer gun, my friend has tried: 4 different powders; many quality bullets weighing from 40-65 gr; 2 different scopes; 2 different sets of scope rings/mount; multiple different factory loads; in addition, he spent $75 and drove 3 hours round trip to have a trigger job done by Clark's. Despite this, 3-4" groups at 100 yds were the norm. Totally frustrated, he sent the gun back to Ruger. They replaced the custom 3.5# trigger w/ a 7# factory trigger, destroyed the custom trigger and replaced the factory bolt. W/ the gun they included a target of a 3/4" group at 50 yds shot w/ 55 gr American Eagle ammo. Thereafter, the best it's shot for him has been a single 2.5" group at 100 yds; it averages 3-3.5" groups. This is not a problem of an incompetent shooter and the wrong ammo. My friend even called Clark's and asked them what they could do to accurize the factory modified Mini-14. They basically said, "Nothing" unless they installed a target barrel and reworked the gas system. Yeah, Ruger made some manufacturing changes a few years ago that helped the accuracy of many Mini-14's, but from reading the internet, my friend's experience w/ an inaccurate Mini 14 is not uncommon. Inaccuracy is still common, even w/ the newer models.

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Sub-MOA groups in broken in rifles and match loads are not impossible with them.

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I guess nothing's impossible, but from reviewing threads about the Mini-14, it appears as if a stock Mini-14 that shoots sub-MOA is uncommon.

If you have some tips or inexpensive gunsmithing suggestions to accurize the Mini-14 let me know and I'll pass them on to my friends.

Update- Picked up the Ruger Ranch, took it home for a good clean and then headed to the range.
Rifle shot great for the first 12 rounds.... at which time the bolt froze up and would not retract/cycle. Would only come back about 1/2" and then wouldn't move any farther back.
Never had an issue with a gun before and this is ridiculous.
In addition the rotary mag is a cheap plastic POS that is better suited for an airgun.
Ruger has a great platform here that with some tweaks can be a HUGE seller, but the mag needs strengthening and whatever is going on to lock up the bolt needs to be addressed. A poster in this thread said previously that the bolt has pkastic chit in it. Whatever the cause I agree that for a few pennies more this can be fixed.
C'mon Ruger...put $5-10 more into this gun and you will have a real winner here!!!

AUTimbo,
So sorry to hear of your bad experience. Not many things in life are more frustrating than a new gun that doesn't work properly! I'd be in contact w/ Ruger by email right now or by phone first thing tomorrow. If you have to send it back to them, be sure they provide you a return shipping label. They had my friend's gun back in his hands in only a few weeks. Keep us updated.

Received RMA today...rifle heading back tomorrow.

Ruger probably saved the life if a hog or two yesterday.