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Posted on 10/13/17 at 4:42 pm to tigerfoot
"I don't think Ben Franklin would want crazy uncle Bill to have a bump stock
I think a lot of common sense has been exchanged for paranoia.
Not one conservative thinks abortion is right and we have abortion clinics. Not one Bible Belt Christian agrees with gay marriage but we have gays marrying and boys pissing in the girls room.
keep on being tone deaf and paranoid, you will be on a 45 day wait for a slingshot l to have a bump stock [/quote]
No offense, but that is the worst possible argument I have ever heard. Do you think that the majority of Americans agreed with the Supreme COurt's ruling in Roe v Wade at the time? Do you think a majority do now? No it took activist judges.
Do you think the majority of Americans believe in gay marriage? No, it took activist judges. In fact, the most liberal state in the Union (California) had just voted and said no to same sex marriage.
And you may need reminding that just a couple of years ago, four out of nine Supreme Court justices said that YOU do not have a right to a firearm. So I can tell you that my support for the 2nd amendment is not because I am paranoid. It is because I know that they will take our guns without batting an eye.
I think a lot of common sense has been exchanged for paranoia.
Not one conservative thinks abortion is right and we have abortion clinics. Not one Bible Belt Christian agrees with gay marriage but we have gays marrying and boys pissing in the girls room.
keep on being tone deaf and paranoid, you will be on a 45 day wait for a slingshot l to have a bump stock [/quote]
No offense, but that is the worst possible argument I have ever heard. Do you think that the majority of Americans agreed with the Supreme COurt's ruling in Roe v Wade at the time? Do you think a majority do now? No it took activist judges.
Do you think the majority of Americans believe in gay marriage? No, it took activist judges. In fact, the most liberal state in the Union (California) had just voted and said no to same sex marriage.
And you may need reminding that just a couple of years ago, four out of nine Supreme Court justices said that YOU do not have a right to a firearm. So I can tell you that my support for the 2nd amendment is not because I am paranoid. It is because I know that they will take our guns without batting an eye.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:09 pm to bapple
Been through this thread an counted at least 5 posters in favor on anti gun legislation on a fricking outdoor board none the less. 
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:12 pm to Big L
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I'm pro gun, but I do think the line should be drawn somewhere.
Then you are obviously NOT pro gun
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:15 pm to lsufan1971
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Been through this thread an counted at least 5 posters in favor on anti gun legislation on a fricking outdoor board none the less.
It's not surprising. Fudds are amongst us. Also, anytime they say "I'm pro gun but" then you know they are not.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:23 pm to Propagandalf
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They all build on each other, gving them another building block puts you no closer to securing your right to own semi-auto rifles with detachable magazines, in fact it sets you back in securing that right.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:35 pm to Big L
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably doomed."
-Patrick Henry
-Patrick Henry
Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:13 pm to AlxTgr
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These are the things that make you people come off as crazy. Not unlike the rant hate for O. They are probably right about him, but they argue so so poorly.
Instead of just saying that it's a "poor argument" why don't you tell me why?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:14 pm to ChatRabbit77
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t's not surprising. Fudds are amongst us. Also, anytime they say "I'm pro gun but" then you know they are not
So what is the definition of "pro-gun Relevant to existing laws and regulations?
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:14 pm to tigerfoot
Now post a chart showing the violent crime rates.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:17 pm to ChatRabbit77
quote:People like these two are why we will lose our guns completely.
Been through this thread an counted at least 5 posters in favor on anti gun legislation on a fricking outdoor board none the less. It's not surprising. Fudds are amongst us. Also, anytime they say "I'm pro gun but" then you know they are not.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:35 pm to AlxTgr
I’d love to be the sole dictator of all things gun related for the world.
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:51 pm to Big L
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So what is the definition of "pro-gun Relevant to existing laws and regulations?
Repealing existing laws and regulations including the nfa.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:00 pm to civiltiger07
quote:no, we have suburbs to get away from violent crimes
Now post a chart showing the violent crime rates.
But we sure shoot a lot of people until they are dead
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:03 pm to civiltiger07
quote:You wouldn't understand it.
Instead of just saying that it's a "poor argument" why don't you tell me why?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:06 pm to Big L
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I'm pro gun, but
You can stop right there and GTFO
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:16 pm to AlxTgr
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You wouldn't understand it.
Well isn't that convenient
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:47 pm to AlxTgr
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People like these two are why we will lose our guns completely.
You should go ahead and go down to your local Sheriffs department and turn yours in now.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:58 pm to Propagandalf
quote:Look, I appreciate that you're well informed. I've done business with you several times
Thats a nearsighted strategy and, IMO, an awful tactic. We gain nothing from such a compromise and increase the grounds for further regulation on things like your right to own semi-auto rifles with detachable magazines. Don't you see they are using the previous "compromises" of the GCA and NFA as rationale for further regulation. Laying down here only increases their arsenal of precedents to further gun control. There are living case studies in America, such as CA, where you can see how far down the rabbit hole these people want to take these regulations. They all build on each other, gving them another building block puts you no closer to securing your right to own semi-auto rifles with detachable magazines, in fact it sets you back in securing that right.
, and honestly, our personal views aren't very far apart on this (other than I like old antique bang bangs, and you like new Lego For Men bang bangs). Frankly, I'd love to have an old Thompson in full auto with a drum, just because. But in this case, you're overthinking it. You're addressing points to contest with the anti-gun crowd. Normally, that's on point.
This isn't a normal time. Some jackass just killed 50+ people and injured dozens, possibly hundreds more (and caused many, many more due to stampede etc). The concessions I discuss isn't for the anti-gun crowd, it's for the otherwise neutral crowd that normally couldn't care less about the anti's, but that is currently looking on in horror and saying "whoa, something needs to change". THAT is the voting block that could push us to a Canada model, or a Great Britain model, if they are so inclined.
We need to present as sensible, mature and responsible to this crowd. Digging in our heels and saying "you can't take away my slide-fire stock, it's mine, it's legal and the 2nd Amendment says I can have it", right now, will alienate the vast majority of the country.
The NRA is pushing to regulate them. A Republican is sponsoring a bill about them. This isn't business as usual.
Again, I'm not in favor of banning anything. But like I said, SOMETHING will happen, and we can either be proactive, or get rolled over.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:00 pm to civiltiger07
Well isn't that convenientMore like unfortunate.
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