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Recs for a 9mm for wife that could be used for CCW.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:34 pm
My wife is thinking about getting a pistol. Seems most pistols marketed to women are .38. I have a 9mm (Ruger P89) and would like to stay same caliber. What would be a good small 9mm for her.
TIA
TIA
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:41 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
I use a S&W M&P9C and love it
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:45 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Sig p938
If you don't mind 380 the sig p238 is a nice CCW.
If you don't mind 380 the sig p238 is a nice CCW.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:53 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Does she plan carrying IWB, or OWB?
I don't recommend purse carry since many robbers snatch the purse and run.
If IWB (inside waist band), get a single stack pistol.
If OWB, get a double stack for higher round count.
Ruger LC9s, S&W Shield, Walther PPS, Kahr, Beretta Nano, or Springfield XDS would all be great choices.
IMO, stay away from Taurus. You get what you pay for.
It's like buying a car - Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc.
Just let her choose whichever one that feels best to her.
I don't recommend purse carry since many robbers snatch the purse and run.
If IWB (inside waist band), get a single stack pistol.
If OWB, get a double stack for higher round count.
Ruger LC9s, S&W Shield, Walther PPS, Kahr, Beretta Nano, or Springfield XDS would all be great choices.
IMO, stay away from Taurus. You get what you pay for.
It's like buying a car - Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc.
Just let her choose whichever one that feels best to her.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:00 am to Shexter
I doubt she will actually conceal carry but have in the car. I'm thinking CCW size so she feels more comfortable with it. Granted what ever I get her she will have to goto the range and get comfortable with the weapon but a smaller size would fit her better. Just looking for what to start her with looking at and what to avoid. Looks like I need to avoid Taurus.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:32 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
#1 Rule here - Let her choose her own gun.
If you want this:
1. What is her shooting experience? If she has barely shot handguns or not shot them at all, using a CCW 9mm as a STARTING point is a big mistake. You must work her up to it.
2. If this is her first gun, you need to get her past the sensations of A. recoil and B. sound/feeling of muzzle blast. If she is not used to these things, you risk scaring her from handguns if she isn't used to either one. Start her on one of your 22 pistols or a FULL sized 9mm to get her started. Either one will get her past these barriers. Be mindful of the fact that you had to start at the beginning when you started shooting too. Don't push too hard.
3. If she has fired handguns and has already gotten used to the sensation of recoil from small guns, starting her on a semi auto isn't bad but still comes with obstacles. Teach her proper racking technique (since women have a harder time racking the slide), teach her how to insert a magazine, and teach her how to load a magazine. Most of that information can be found here:
Firearms for Women
The gun suggestions made here were good. Just make sure she picks it herself. Let her handle some different guns and shoot some if necessary.
If you want this:
quote:then you need to let her choose it herself. She will much more likely to be comfortable with something she picked out herself. The suggestions here are great carry guns and I'm sure she can find some on the list that fit her. But first:
I doubt she will actually conceal carry but have in the car.
1. What is her shooting experience? If she has barely shot handguns or not shot them at all, using a CCW 9mm as a STARTING point is a big mistake. You must work her up to it.
2. If this is her first gun, you need to get her past the sensations of A. recoil and B. sound/feeling of muzzle blast. If she is not used to these things, you risk scaring her from handguns if she isn't used to either one. Start her on one of your 22 pistols or a FULL sized 9mm to get her started. Either one will get her past these barriers. Be mindful of the fact that you had to start at the beginning when you started shooting too. Don't push too hard.
3. If she has fired handguns and has already gotten used to the sensation of recoil from small guns, starting her on a semi auto isn't bad but still comes with obstacles. Teach her proper racking technique (since women have a harder time racking the slide), teach her how to insert a magazine, and teach her how to load a magazine. Most of that information can be found here:
Firearms for Women
The gun suggestions made here were good. Just make sure she picks it herself. Let her handle some different guns and shoot some if necessary.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:50 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
quote:
I doubt she will actually conceal carry but have in the car.
If that's the case, go full size. See below for explanation.
quote:
I'm thinking CCW size so she feels more comfortable with it.. but a smaller size would fit her better.
You've got two different trains of thought going on here:
1. She'll be more comfortable w/ a smaller gun.
2. A smaller gun will "fit" her better.
Neither one are necessarily true. Generally speaking, a smaller/lighter version of a gun is more difficult to shoot and handle well than the larger/heavier version of the same gun. Most smaller versions of a standard size gun just have a shorter grip and barrel (e.g Glock Model 17, 19 and 26). Start her off on a model 26 because it's "smaller" and she probably won't like it. When dealing w/ guns, lighter means more recoil. More recoil is not well-received by a lot of shooters, especially new ones.
The reason for a CCW size gun is to facilitate carrying it concealed. Since she has a car in which to "conceal" her gun, there's no need to make the gun "small." Instead, look at a full size gun that fits her hand well enough that she'll be able to handle it well. If she can handle a full size double stack magazine gun like the Glock model 17 or the slightly smaller (shorter grip and short barrel) model 19, that's great for her. If here grip is better suited for a single stack magazine gun (e.g. 1911's, Shield, Kahr's, Springfield XDs, a number of Sig Sauers, et al), then go that direction. Let her handle and shoot as many guns as she can. Point her the right direction, but let HER make the final decision. A pocket sized 380 might feet her grip well, but lots of women don't like it's "snappy" recoil. Get the BIGGEST gun she can easily handle.
There's some good info specific to women in this article. LINK /
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:54 am to TigerOnThe Hill
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TigerOnThe Hill
A solid voice to back me up!
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:53 am to bapple
I don't know a single girl that would rather shoot a pocket pistol than a full-sized gun. They all hate them and only shoot one mag. I hate pocket pistols also
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:44 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Make sure you check out a Walther PK380
You'd have to invest in .380 ammo, but it's one of the easiest to operate pistols around.
Women absolutely love them - fits smaller hands very well, slide is easy to operate, and .380 has a little less recoil than 9mm.
I would consider it to be a mid-sized pistol.
The compact .380's and 9's are hell with recoil.
They're not comfortable pistols to shoot.
Also avoid tiny .38 special revolvers.
You'd have to invest in .380 ammo, but it's one of the easiest to operate pistols around.
Women absolutely love them - fits smaller hands very well, slide is easy to operate, and .380 has a little less recoil than 9mm.
I would consider it to be a mid-sized pistol.
The compact .380's and 9's are hell with recoil.
They're not comfortable pistols to shoot.
Also avoid tiny .38 special revolvers.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:18 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
1. Listen to TigerOnTheHill. The only modification I'd suggest to his list would be to delete the guns that have external safeties (e.g. the 1911). That may seem counterintuitive for a person who probably won't practice a lot. But she might forget, under the stress of a carjacking, to deactivate a safety. (Remember -- safeties don't make a gun safe, any more than the Affordable Care Act is making health care affordable).
2. Pay for a lesson with an NRA certified instructor. Shouldn't cost much, and will pay dividends. Most wives learn better from someone other than a spouse.
3. Stick with the 9mm. Ammo is cheaper and more plentiful than some of the other calibers people have suggested.
4. If you get a Glock 19 or 17 (the "gold standard" for reliability), try to find a Gen 3 version. Then you'll have the option of buying an Advantage Arms Conversion Kit (AACK) which will let her practice with .22LR ammo (inexpensive, low recoil, low noise).
5. If you live near Baton Rouge, Precision indoor range has guns to rent. This would let her "test drive" 2 or 3 guns before you plunk down a few hundred $$ on a purchase.
2. Pay for a lesson with an NRA certified instructor. Shouldn't cost much, and will pay dividends. Most wives learn better from someone other than a spouse.
3. Stick with the 9mm. Ammo is cheaper and more plentiful than some of the other calibers people have suggested.
4. If you get a Glock 19 or 17 (the "gold standard" for reliability), try to find a Gen 3 version. Then you'll have the option of buying an Advantage Arms Conversion Kit (AACK) which will let her practice with .22LR ammo (inexpensive, low recoil, low noise).
5. If you live near Baton Rouge, Precision indoor range has guns to rent. This would let her "test drive" 2 or 3 guns before you plunk down a few hundred $$ on a purchase.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:31 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
She's going to hold it with both hands so get a full sized.
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