Questions on my Xpress H22 setup

ok...where to start.. throw away that powertec. the xpress likes the trophy, pro series and tempest props the best. For a trophy you will need a cavitation ring as its a small barrel prop but runs very well on the xpress.

OFX3R21PCL200 : OFX is the style powertec. 3 is the blade and 21 is the pitch

you want your prop to pad to be 4"-3.25" with those props. - get your motor set at 4" below pad. mark this on the JP - do same for 3.25". Stay between these two marks when running. drop JP to 4" and get on plane bump up and slowly bump trim until you lose speed or lift. bump down one and that is your wide open motor height and trim level. at this time you should be at max speed, lift and 5800-6000 rpms.

you want 6000 rpms with your average load, not a light load that you never realistically use. fill the tank, put 2-3 guys in there with gear and see how it runs. All props of the same pitch will give different rpms due to diameter, blade design and blade stiffness differences. you should be turning a 19 pitch. maybe 21 depending on the prop but thats a lot of boat for the 150 so a 19 seems best

props lift lots of rake run good on the xpress to give it lots of bow lift to get on pad. the 4 blades lift the stern in addition to the bow so they run a little "flat" when compared to the 4 blade. I ran pro series (3 blade) and trophy (4 blade) on my boat.

if you want more speed, get a bigger plate (10-12" of set back) xpress likes as much set back as you can give it.

Water pressure - say about 12psi. you run at the motor heights i said you wont have a psi issue.

All the answers to yours questions can be found here: LINK

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Is 52 mph respectable for a 150 on a H22?

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yes my buddy's h22 with w150 and no JP did 50-51 i think. 6" isnt much on an xpress but does help.

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Seemed like something thrown on at the factory/dealership.

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thats right. Cheap because its made in LA. Not bad props but dont perform well on xpress hulls.

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Which of those other 2 props, in your opinion,

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either or at this point. Pro series may be easier to turn so try that. The tempest will require a hub kit ($50) to fit on the Yamaha splined shaft. No big deal to get it if you want the tempest.

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Guy I bought it from said it topped out at 59;

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maybe on the needle speedo. Always use GPS speeds.

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4 blade lifting the rear and flatting the ride. That should keep the wife happy.

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it still lifts the boat very well but the bow isnt pointed as "high up". Its not a HUGE difference where your wife would ever know the difference. it wont change the ride of the boat. Its just the qualities of a 4 blade. The boat will still bounce when not trimmed right. Xpress hulls are light so they are sensitive to weight distribution and trim.

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Pro series 4 blade.

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this wasnt a pro series 4 blade.they dont make it in a 4 blade. it was a performance series. different blade design. Hard prop to find. i ran across it at a local store and they pretty much gave it way so i took it. Stick with the "true" pro series

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Do you know how does the rev limiter work on the F150?

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i think it stops you at 6200ish. dont go over 6000. anything above that is "over rev" and can be seen when plugged into a mechanic's computer. yamaha wont warranty some issues when over revs are shown

ETA: I cant stress this enough - you want your wife to not complain about the ride, get a glass bay boat. Mine complained every time we went in open water that was "rough" in the Xpress. She hasnt said a bad word about the new boat.

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She can handle a rough ride just no bow rise.

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well this is what xpress hulls are designed for. To getthe xpress to perform like it was designed you need to get the bow up ( Your wife would shite). With the 150 on the h22 you wont be setting any speed records so bow rise to that extreme is not even close to a concern.

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Already looking to see what else I could put in that spot.

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jbl fits right in

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25' Blackjack

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i had it with 2 6.5" jbl speakers in the console. fine for fishing but wasnt loud enough to jam while cruising. It will do the job but IMO it needs and amp (100 watt amp from wal mart will be sufficent and cheap)

Im currently running 4 - 7.7" JL speakers off a 300watt amp and to me thats perfect. crystal clear at 50mph

My son just got his H20B in Saturday; he put his 1 year old F150LA on it. Not sure of the prop data, it was stock when he bought the motor. With full tank, some gear, the two of us (combined 425 lbs) and his Labrador we ran 54-56 in the bayou. He may need to put a different prop on it but it's fast enough for me.

Thanks. He put a manual plate on it and they set it up for him. He had limited budget so he left off hydraulic jack plate, power pole, and sound system. His Yeti with the built in speakers does just fine when fishing and placed just behind the leaning post on the deck (strapped down of course) it is ok when running.

Wow, it's only rated for 115 I believe. That thing must have had wings!

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good grip with aggressive cupping and high rake.

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This sounds like it is directly off the powertec website. Of course they say this about their prop. You get a prop with real cupping and larger blades your rpms will decrease.

You said you did 6100 with light load and 2 people. You put 3-4 people and heavier load then you will be at 5500

You may be able to swing a 21 pro series. I'd go to a 19 if you go with a 4 blade.

The right way to determine is with your average fishing load and average people on board make a few runs. Document your prop to pad, max rpms and speed. Then you will know what pitch to run. Since every prop varies you will have some unknowns but you can get it pretty close.
- give me your prop to pad measurement for the speed and rpms you gave and I can let you know more.

I've noticed with ptec props is that you get lots of slip. So you turn the prop really fast but it's not gripping the water. When you grip it will reduce your rpms due to friction and propulsion.
Your numbers give me 14% slip. That's high. I'm getting 6% on my bay boat and had my h20b down to 6%

Email me at seapickle09@gmail.com and we can get you set up

You got me, it came from a website. This is the first powertech of its kind I have seen up close. I thought it has an aggressive look to it didn't question what I read.

I had calculated between 14-16% slip as well. The load on that run was full tank, 2 grown men, fishing gear, cooler loaded down with shrimp and reds. Looking back now that is about average and doubt I ever load her down with 5-6 people + gear.

I will take prop to pad measurements tomorrow to try to figure out where I was running at and mark the height it should be. Hopefully will get to run her again at some point this weekend.