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Question on Duck Hunting Scenario - Flooded Timber

Posted on 2/11/16 at 3:18 pm
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 3:18 pm
This past season I spent time hunting some public land in LA. The area I was hunting was basically a bunch of flooded sloughs broken up by ridges. The sloughs were mainly cypress and tupelo gum but there were also areas of flooded oaks that were dropping acorns. Some of the sloughs were over a quarter mile wide though, so we're talking about a lot of flooded area. I would guess that half of the total wooded area was flooded.

There are a couple of lakes back in the woods that I knew about in the middle of the flooded timber. I spent most of my time trying to hunt one of them, and I was successful at killing a buttload of wood ducks, and a few mallards (1 per hunt basically. If I'd shot better I might have gotten another 1-2, but I didn't have more than 2-3 opportunities a hunt at most. Sometimes just one.). I knew there were more mallards in the area, because I'd jump up a few on my way in/out (maybe a half dozen here and there). I never put any time in trying to find out where the birds were coming down in the sloughs because I thought having some decoys in a lake would be a better bet.

Long story short I had some decent hunts but never had more than a few opportunities at big ducks. I think my mistake was never moving off the lake and into the timber. It's not possible to get a boat into the area (except maybe a pirogue if I drag it in a ways first).

Couple of questions:

1. How would you approach trying to scout for big ducks in an area like this? My inclination is to hunt the first hour or so and then spend the rest of a morning/day looking for big ducks, then come back to the same spot the following weekend.

2. Will I scare the ducks off of a spot by flushing them out if I'm walking/paddling around?

Also, I do acknowledge that without better scouting into the timber, it's tough to say that I'm in the right spot at all. Thanks for the input if you made it this far.
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 4:00 pm to
I'm on my phone so can't properly respond, but you have to hunt where the ducks want to be. That lake is not going to pull them out of the woods. It doesn't take much of an an opening in the trees for them to come through, I have seen them come through the trees with no holes at all.

In short, hunt the area you flushed the most out of. Very few dekes on a pull string and very little calling. Those bastards in the woods can be very tricky, but when it's right it's a hunt that can't be beat.
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
1508 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 4:04 pm to
So many factors go into killing ducks in an area that its nearly too hard to say what would have been best for you. Keep in mind these factors change on any given day. So going off what we know here is that you have a fair amount of land to hunt. What you should take note on is that indicating where food at is foremost then followed by pressure. Pressure overrides food after you start blasting. Ducks are going to be where there is little to no pressure and food. If you don't have this then you don't have duck. Next you have to know your property to understand ducks just want to be in certain areas given everything is equal. Find those areas and you are that much ahead.
My advice would be to pay attention to the above mentioned mostly then use your head. Meaning "hey, I haven't killed anything here all season...let me try and find a different spot" do that sooner rather than later during the season.
Also, know that ducks are crazy. It's what makes hunting them fun.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Jackstraw55
Half a mile from Tucson
Member since Jan 2016
127 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

because I'd jump up a few on my way in/out (


What times were you coming in/going out?
Posted by Mr Wonderful
Love City
Member since Oct 2015
1045 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

It's not possible to get a boat into the area (except maybe a pirogue if I drag it in a ways first).


Because of rules/regulations? You could speed up the scouting time tremendously with a mud motor. You'd be surprised where those things can go. Or maybe even a 4-wheeler?

You definitely want to be where you jump the ducks up from.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

What times were you coming in/going out?


Coming out around noon. One day I was in there doing some scouting in the afternoon too, like 3:30. Also I've been in the woods at dusk and saw a bunch flying low overhead.
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4774 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:15 pm to
The ducks that you are seeing flying low overhead are obviously looking for a place to land. It may be just a few hundred yards away or a half mile. Sometimes it helps to just watch the birds early instead of setting up. People think that you have to be set up early to kill ducks. All you may miss is the early squeeler shoot, but you're obviously after bigger game. Set up where the birds are dropping in. That is the "X" you need to be on. The south LA guys can tell you this. It took us till day 3 to actually get to where the birds wanted to be when they came up to hunt. Sadly, they left after day 2. It's funny how a few hundred yards can make a world of difference.

Another thing when hunting timber is calling. If this is a heavily pressured place, you have to make duck listen to you. That soft calling just won't do the trick. You have to let em hear you and stay on em. The more callers the better (if they know how to call of course). Ducks make all kinds of noise in the woods so you need sound like a bunch of duck having a good time. Had a timber guide tell me one time that soft calling is for pussies. I've been screaming at them ever since!

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This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
1508 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

o let em hear you and stay on em. The more callers the better (if they know how to call of course). Ducks make all kinds of noise in the woods so you need sound like a bunch of duck having a good time. Had a timber guide tell me one time that soft calling is for pussies. I've been screaming at them ever since!


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Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:19 pm to
I know you kill birds, but come to these woods over here and call a bunch. It doesn't work. Get there attention and shut it.
Posted by Jackstraw55
Half a mile from Tucson
Member since Jan 2016
127 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

My inclination is to hunt the first hour or so and then spend the rest of a morning/day looking for big ducks, then come back to the same spot the following weekend.




I'd probably sit tight. Most timber holes are more resting areas rather than feeding areas, therefore many times the big ducks come late. In recent years around Mecca, mallards don't really start flying until 10-11am.
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4774 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 6:42 am to
Man, I'm with you on that. I grew up in LA and hunted Beouf River since I was a kid, but just think about this. Stick your head out of a truck going about 40mph and tell me what you hear. Also think about the size of your ear compared to a duck's. I don't think ducks hear near as well as we think they do. A lot of these ducks that choose not to come into our spread may actually not be hearing our calling at all.

Again, this is just my opinion, and I have no scientific data to explain a ducks hearing capabilities, but it may be something to think about. Of course late season ducks are a whole different ballgame.
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