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re: Please Help ID this Grassy Weed (Update: New pics added.)

Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:27 am to
Posted by bootlegger
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:27 am to
Well, Quinclorac is not for use on Centipede. Vantage will kill it, but anything else it touches as well...Only other thing I can think of is Sulfursofuron. I remember when I was battling nutsedge a few summers ago, that it seemed to burn back the Torpedograss significantly. May be too expensive to be a viable option, though.
Posted by Marineaux
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:36 am to
Thanks bootlegger. It's my understanding that Vantage won't Kil centipede if applied correctly. I've had some success with this product controlling Bermuda. I may give it a try and look into Sulfursofuron.
Posted by bootlegger
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:43 am to
Read up on that Vantage label before applying...I thought it was just Dow's version of Roundup...I could be wrong though

Sulfosulfuron is most likely sold under the brand name Certainty. It's not listed for Torpedo, but I saw burn-back when I used it. Personally, I probably wouldn't spend the dough on a chemical that isn't listed for what I was trying to kill

If the Vantage doesn't work out, I will run a test plot with the Sulfosulfuron I have and get back to you with before and after pics .
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 7:49 am
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:22 am to
Amazed at all the attention given to yards, and the knowledge you guys have about grasses and treatments.
Mine just gets treated with Lettergrow and Cuttitback. Looking forward to the cooler weather so I can slack up on both treatments.
Posted by bootlegger
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:42 am to
I do athletic field turf management for a living, so that bleeds over into my yard as well



I, too, am ready for the cool down so I can change my focus to hunting
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 10:06 am
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Mine just gets treated with Lettergrow and Cuttitback


mine gets treated with disdain and occasional dog poop
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:43 am to
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Lettergrow and Cuttitback.
This heat and mini-drought has helped - no rain since 7/4.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:51 am to
Good luck OP torpedo is the devil! Coming from NOLA I had it in all my yards and gardens. I moved to laffy and left all my lawn equipment at the old house. Got all new and had a fresh sodded lawn....then got lazy and got a law service. They brought in torpedo and I tried to fight it off in st aug. Going as far as using a cloths pin with sponges on the ends so I could treat just the torpedo. I gave up after a cpl years...and have since moved and left all lawn equipment again. I dont even like looking at it online

Most here dont even know what it is...
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Amazed at all the attention given to yards,
Yup. Instead of weed-n-feed, I'd like to find weed-n-retard.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13847 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Most here dont even know what it is...

Close enough to St. Aug for me.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:26 am to
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Torpedograss is the devil of turfgrasses


Trufe.
Posted by Easternrio
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:44 pm to
The most success I've had at keeping this stuff in check is applications of round up either spot sprayed or wiped on twice a week for 8 weeks. When it looks completely dead just keep spraying it
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9939 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Good luck OP torpedo is the devil! Coming from NOLA I had it in all my yards and gardens. I moved to laffy and left all my lawn equipment at the old house. Got all new and had a fresh sodded lawn....then got lazy and got a law service. They brought in torpedo and I tried to fight it off in st aug. Going as far as using a cloths pin with sponges on the ends so I could treat just the torpedo. I gave up after a cpl years...and have since moved and left all lawn equipment again. I dont even like looking at it online

Most here dont even know what it is...


Dealing with it for the past several years here in New Orleans. Took me a while to figure out what it was, but it is the most persistent, annoying shite ever. Applying Roundup at 2x max recommended concentration by hand with gloves works, but if you are not religious about keeping up with it, it just comes back. It will also bust through any mulch or weed fabric like it's no big deal.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:41 pm to
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I'm really hoping it isn't the torpedo grass because it seems like that stuff is hard to get rid of completely,
If you guys haven't already noticed, I love ID threads. I have never, to my knowledge, seen torpedo grass, so I yield to those hear who have. Still, I can't make your pics look like the pics of torpedo I have found. How do the plants connect to one another, if at all? When you pull it, do you ever end up wit hthis type structure?



Another grass I've never seen is Signal, but some of the pics sure look like yours,



Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:52 pm to
yall just need to squint. It looks just like St Augustine if you blur your eyes up real good.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:37 pm to
That's why I said the second set of pics was Torpedograss... The first set didn't strike me as torpedo. shite gets tricky, for sure. Dr Strahan at the AgCenter probably hates me because I email him so much for weed ID
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13847 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:44 pm to
Some grass makes rhizomes, which are root structures you can't easily kill, etc. Johnson grass is another rhizome grass, Bermuda probably is, too.
Posted by Marineaux
Member since Jul 2012
62 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:21 pm to
Here some more pictures I took in the full daylight, including one I found that was flowering. I agree though, starting to waiver on the Torpedo Grass ID.



Posted by bootlegger
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Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 5:27 pm to
Bermuda has stolons and rhizomes...that's why it's such a bitch to get rid of.
Posted by Daponch
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Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:21 am to
The torpedo grass ID is correct. If it is real bad we scrape it out and install zoysia or Bermuda. At least you can use a selective herbicide with those.
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