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Pintail limit to drop to 1
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:49 pm
Has this been brought up yet? The few hunts I've actually got to go on we've seen quite a few pintails in north texas. LINK
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:53 pm to nerd guy
Damn, not great for coastal Texas.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:21 am to nerd guy
This is concerning to me, but not because I shoot lots of Pintail in my spot. When I was in Canada earlier this fall, we could shoot 4 Pins. If we can shoot 1 while they kill 4...The outfitters are allowing clients up there to kill 4 pintail everyday for their entire season, can't fault the outfitters, obviously, but these guys killing 1000s of pintail a year while JoeBlow in Venice shoots 15 a year instead of 25 doesn't seem right.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:23 am to nerd guy
They need to cut back to 4 duck bag limits to drive a bunch of these new duck hunters out of the sport. Guides would go back to the very few long standing operations, pressure would decrease, and the people who truly love working birds the right way would still be hunting. Duck hunting has changed so much the last 15 years its almost like a different world.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:33 am to HogIslandDuckman
Canada also has a larger total bag limit for ducks but theu aren't killing near the ducks we kill just in the Mississippi flyway alone. I would venture to say Louisiana kills as many ducks as the entire country of Canada. its probably close at least
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:34 am to TigerDog83
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They need to cut back to 4 duck bag limits to drive a bunch of these new duck hunters out of the sport. Guides would go back to the very few long standing operations, pressure would decrease, and the people who truly love working birds the right way would still be hunting. Duck hunting has changed so much the last 15 years its almost like a different world.
1. there aren't as many "new" hunters as you think.
2. they will cut the number of days we hunt before they cut the number of birds or both at the same time.
duck hunting has changed
1. because of no till farming
2. dramatically increased pressure further up the fly way
3. shallow water boat proliferation
4. changing habitat and land use practices in this end of the flyway.... and well north of us(farmers realized they could make a fortune off duck hunters)
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:38 am to choupiquesushi
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duck hunting has changed
1. because of no till farming
2. dramatically increased pressure further up the fly way
3. shallow water boat proliferation
4. changing habitat and land use practices in this end of the flyway.... and well north of us(farmers realized they could make a fortune off duck hunters)
I agree which is why a shorter season and lower bag limits could alter #2 and #4 and probably #3 some as well. I personally would love to see no more spinners in the Dakotas and Canada where they are a totally different world on dry fields. It would also be nice not to see all these people shooting at 60 yard ducks and everybody being some kind of pro staffer for some gear brand.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:56 am to TigerDog83
No. the duck populations aren't hurting (doing very well actually) and can support the harvest Lets not try and push silly legislation and leave it up to facts and actual science and not knee jerk reactions.
The harvest in Canada and dakotas are a drop in the bucket to overall harvest.
The harvest in Canada and dakotas are a drop in the bucket to overall harvest.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:01 am to nerd guy
Are the bag limits set by the state or the Feds?
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:10 am to GeauxMatt624
The Feds give the guidelines and framework and state works within those guidelines
For instance in Arkansas even though the state limit is four mallards, they reduced the limit to three mallards on bayou meto WMA to reduce pressure
For instance in Arkansas even though the state limit is four mallards, they reduced the limit to three mallards on bayou meto WMA to reduce pressure
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:12 am to Ron Cheramie
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The harvest in Canada and dakotas are a drop in the bucket to overall harvest.
It's not so much the numbers but the way ducks have gotten so much warier the last few years. I've watched ducks flare off of live ducks on the water this year. They don't decoy near like they did prior to the spinner craze and I think that the huge wads being shot at over spinners up north have an impact here. We didn't see this behavior in the 1990's when there were supposedly fewer ducks. I guess it's hard for some people to believe but duck hunting hasn't always been about stacking a pile of bodies on a tailgate and throwing a picture on social media. Some people actually like watching birds work down right and working a dog.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:17 am to TigerDog83
I agree but duck harvest numbers disagree with us. Plenty of ducks getting killed
Question. Do you use a spinner?
Question. Do you use a spinner?
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:22 am to TigerDog83
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They need to cut back to 4 duck bag limits to drive a bunch of these new duck hunters out of the sport. Guides would go back to the very few long standing operations, pressure would decrease, and the people who truly love working birds the right way would still be hunting. Duck hunting has changed so much the last 15 years its almost like a different world.
I was joking with my dad a while back they should think about going back to the point system they used when he was younger. 100 points allowed. But you shoot 1 Can (worth 100 points) you're done for the day. Pretty shitty system. It would at least force people to identify birds better and not sky blast them.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:23 am to TigerDog83
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I agree which is why a shorter season and lower bag limits could alter #2 and #4 and probably #3 some as well. I personally would love to see no more spinners in the Dakotas and Canada where they are a totally different world on dry fields. It would also be nice not to see all these people shooting at 60 yard ducks and everybody being some kind of pro staffer for some gear brand
30 day season the hard core guys will hunt 30 days.
60 day season they hunt 30 to 40
what is lost on many many hunters now and this flares many many ducks.... is how to build a blind with vertical cover and using shadows to help conceal hunters..... and..... HOW TO BE STILL...
many many guys nowadays think the newest camo pattern helps them..... NO... it really doesn't.
I rarely even wear camo... but I am as still as mt rushmore when i see or hear ducks. 90% of the hunters I see.. cannot be still
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:25 am to Ron Cheramie
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Question. Do you use a spinner?
No I don't even own one.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:38 am to nerd guy
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It would at least force people to identify birds better and not sky blast them.
it really didn't....... they just claimed them out of order
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:55 am to TigerDog83
Me neither and I can't stand to look at one. Would say most wouldnt know what to do without one and aren't smart enough to know when to leave them at home
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:57 am to TigerDog83
You sound like someone who refuses to change his ways and wonders why he isn't killing the same amount of ducks he killed 15 years ago.
Nevermind changes in farming practices, climate and our increasing problem with unwanted aquatic vegetation.
Nevermind changes in farming practices, climate and our increasing problem with unwanted aquatic vegetation.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:01 am to choupiquesushi
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it really didn't....... they just claimed them out of order
Then that was piss poor hunting. It didn't matter the order, if you were over 100 you were over the limit.
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