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re: Pics added. Looking for suggestions on a creek crossing

Posted on 5/29/17 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1852 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

. I have seen used RR flat bed cars used also.


Was just going to post this. This type of equipment is scrapped quite often when they reach a mandatory life cycle which is normally 50 years. They Can be 50 to 75 feet long. They are damn sturdy. I heard of people using them a bridges many times.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5149 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 12:08 am to
quote:

I have seen used RR flat bed cars used also.


quote:

Was just going to post this. This type of equipment is scrapped quite often when they reach a mandatory life cycle which is normally 50 years. They Can be 50 to 75 feet long. They are damn sturdy. I heard of people using them a bridges many times.


City/Parish governments use them too.
Posted by MahiFishn
NOLA
Member since Aug 2011
536 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:11 am to
What is your budget? And what kind of equipment do you have available to you?
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7581 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:23 am to
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Only option is a concrete pad which is common in oil/gas back roads.

This
There is a creek crossing at my friends hunting camp on Clark Creek in MS. The oil/gas guys poured a pad many years back and it has been fine year after year.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:51 am to
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What is your budget?


That depends on how long term the solution is. Don't want to spend 3k on something ill have to come back and do a few years down the road.

quote:

And what kind of equipment do you have available to you?


Free, a mini ex, and tractor with front end loader. Can get a dozer and mid size trackhoe for a price
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Only option is a concrete pad which is common in oil/gas back roads. This There is a creek crossing at my friends hunting camp on Clark Creek in MS. The oil/gas guys poured a pad many years back and it has been fine year after year.


That's really what id like to do but have no idea if its something I can do on my own or not
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5912 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:08 am to




You need some mats like this. No clue where you can get them though.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5912 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:13 am to
Would you be able to get cement trucks nearby? My dad's neighbor made a boat launch. He would pour a 8'x 10' slab then push it down the hill with his front end loader. He made 4 or 5 slabs and would push them down until he had it far enough down.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4378 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:16 am to
If it's low then ford the river. If it's high Caulk the wagon and float across. I assume you can't take the ferry?
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:41 am to
We actually have some of those on a crossing. A strong current will roll those up.

They use those on pipelines around here. A mat of those is about 1500
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 9:44 am
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7742 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:49 am to
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May just lay cross ties down and see how it does



Better research this and see if it is legal to do this first. Here in Virginia and some other states, putting treated crossties in a creek for any reason is strictly forbidden. EPA and your local health department and your G & F departments could possibly make this solution a very expensive endeavor on your part.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10471 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:52 am to
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You need some mats like this. No clue where you can get them though.



A company called Submar makes mats like those.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21546 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:55 am to
If you have high water flow and debris (trees) flowing during high water events, you have 2 choices.

1. Build a solid "mat" on the bottom. As someone suggested, building it out of concrete sacks will probably work. Those articulated mats used in the oilfield and in the river to reduce scour would also work, but I'm not sure you can get the equipment needed to deliver them out to the site.

2. A bridge would work, but you will need to build it high enough to stay above the high water AND minimize the piles or supports in the water. Anything in the water will cause debris to catch and eventually build up enough force from the water that the bridge will fail. Otherwise, the water backs up and flows over or around it and washes out the approaches.
Posted by Lugnut
Wesson
Member since Nov 2016
1441 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:22 am to
Your only option is a low water crossing
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:33 am to
quote:

We actually have some of those on a crossing. A strong current will roll those up.

They use those on pipelines around here. A mat of those is about 1500



I can more than likely get you some rejects for way cheaper than that.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2669 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 12:08 pm to
The best ones I've seen are paved. Wait until it dries out and pave it w quikcrete like 15 feet on each side then use gravel the remainder. 10 ft wide is enough for a truck to slowly go over it. The water will run over it w no hang ups. If it's never completely dry then I like the quikcrete idea or using the 4 inch thick pavers from Lowe's.
Posted by OptionRight
Down da skreet
Member since Sep 2010
799 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:04 pm to
I have similar situation. You have to choose another site or build up your end approaches on both sides. An old trailer house frame set on jersey barriers on both sides, then I welded 2" angle spaced 1' apart all the way across...I suppose you could use deck boards but the angle was free to me....tractors, trucks, atvs are no problem....
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134874 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:26 pm to
Get some steel cable and make some concrete mats
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21948 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:42 am to
Submar
Posted by Shackleford
Muscle Shoals, Alabama
Member since Jul 2010
122 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:44 pm to
Concrete mats that let the water flow over the top without eroding would be ideal. Contech makes some armorflex mats for this purpose.

You can't just set the mats on the creek bottom. You need to dig out the upstream and downstream limits and bury the ends. Contech Low Water Crossing



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