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Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:15 pm to tigerfoot
If you can make money on $16 rice please let me know
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:15 pm to texag7
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Are organic yields really that low? I read a USDA yield report and the average was only 41 bushels less than conventional
It depends on how much money you spend on them. I have never tried to grow organic. But I knife in 200 units of N to try to make 200 bushels of corn. I cannot imagine trying to do that with chicken shite or some other natural fertilizer. And the weeds. Mother of God the weeds. I would have to have a Mexican for every 10 acres with a hoe chopping weeds around the clock to get a clean field. I don't see how there's any way possible for you to get 80% of the yield organically that I could get conventionally.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:19 pm to jimbeam
No man, I'm way too soft and lazy to succeed as a farmer whether the prices were good or bad
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:19 pm to No Colors
There's absolutely no way that organic corn can yield within 40 bushels of conventional. No. Way.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:27 pm to No Colors
Yeah it probably would not work. I was just looking to find something to get farming with and it stuck out to me because articles were saying people were getting $8.50 per bushel last year (probably bs).
My moms side of the family farms down in El Campo, Texas along the coast, they were born into it. We have land up towards College Station. I was hoping to find something worth farming and perhaps make it a full time ordeal (don't want to work in Houston). But looks like everything requires the same amount of equipment or more time. Will probably end up just staying with cattle for the time being.
Anyways I appreciate your advice. Always good to hear from a farmer
My moms side of the family farms down in El Campo, Texas along the coast, they were born into it. We have land up towards College Station. I was hoping to find something worth farming and perhaps make it a full time ordeal (don't want to work in Houston). But looks like everything requires the same amount of equipment or more time. Will probably end up just staying with cattle for the time being.
Anyways I appreciate your advice. Always good to hear from a farmer
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:41 pm to texag7
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Anyways I appreciate your advice. Always good to hear from a farmer
I know a few people that have tried organic vegetable farming,
If you are outside of a major city, that may be the best way to go.
One couple started on around 15 acres and they are providing for the family but that was on family land.
If you can find a specialty market (organic) the sky is the limit.
You don't need major capital investment if you have access to land.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:10 pm to stewie
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This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:04 am to No Colors
No Colors is still laying down truth in here. Farming is a tough row right now........of course if prices swing up, it'll be nearly impossible to get in.
Lots of guys are working a job of some kind and getting their farming itch in on the side.....until they get enough acres or money to jump in fully.
Lots of guys are working a job of some kind and getting their farming itch in on the side.....until they get enough acres or money to jump in fully.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:14 am to stewie
I farm twice a year (Apr. and Oct.) when we worm and vaccinate all of our cattle and castrate and brand our calves. Plus putting out hay and feeding cubes during the winter.
In total I really farm hard/bust my arse about 20 days out of the year.
The benefit comes though when we go to see my mom where we keep the cows. We go out there most weekends. It's rewarding to "check the cows", or show them off to friends and family. Most people are stunned when they see them in real life the first time.
Here are some pics I've taken this year that I haven't posted here.
I took this picture of my kids sitting on the front porch...
In total I really farm hard/bust my arse about 20 days out of the year.
The benefit comes though when we go to see my mom where we keep the cows. We go out there most weekends. It's rewarding to "check the cows", or show them off to friends and family. Most people are stunned when they see them in real life the first time.
Here are some pics I've taken this year that I haven't posted here.
I took this picture of my kids sitting on the front porch...
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 9:17 am
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:26 am to Clyde Tipton
Nice looking longhorns Clyde. My uncle has a few but they're mostly pets.
I have 6 chickens that have yet to lay an egg if that counts?
I tell my wife all the time; "these free eggs are expensive".
I have 6 chickens that have yet to lay an egg if that counts?
I tell my wife all the time; "these free eggs are expensive".Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:43 am to ducksnbass
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they're mostly pets
Ours too.
We've had hereford, angus, charolais, brahman, as well as all the different mixes over the years since the 70's. We dabbled in longhorns back between 1988-1995, but those were nothing like the "improved" longhorns around today.
I got back into longhorns in 2009 on my own property and my mom cussed me saying it was a mistake and not worth it. As soon as I had my first calves, she cleared shite out and went and bought 9 more longhorn heifers. Then we combined herds to share a bull. We keep about 20 breeding age females and a bull. Cull whack shite and keep nice heifers as replacements. It's been 8 years but we recently turned a corner where every longhorn we have is a no doubter legit Texas Longhorn. I'm proud of them, and what we've accomplished. It's constantly evolving and improving.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:07 am to No Colors
quote:It would be extremely frustrating do deal with landowners like this.
The correlation between Ag land prices and the profitability of farming is not as strong as you would think. It has more to do with yields in other RE catagories. If commercial office and retail has a 6% yield and a 2% annual cash maintenance value, then farm land yields can get pushed to 3-4%. So it has been contra indicated to other financial instruments. When bond yields went to 1% everyone was looking for yield. Let's say farm land was renting for $250 per acre and was worth $3000 per acre. Suddenly that 8% yield looks fantastic, and institutions bid the land price up to $6000 per acre. The rent still stays at $250 even though the land price has doubled. That doubling had nothing to do with the price of corn or the profitability of the operator. Or even his ability to pay higher rent. But what will hammer his arse is when John Hancock (which owns his farm in their portfolio) starts seeing cyclically higher yield opportunities in conventional RE plays. And the 3-4% they're getting off their farmland investment suddenly doesn't look that good. So to keep pace, they demand $400 rent.
Farming is tough, the barriers to entry are enormous. I don't know how to fix it.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:33 pm to White Bear
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:41 pm to No Colors
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Your kids will hate your guts for being gone all the time. But your grandkids (who you probably hardly ever got to see)
Hold on now. We're talking about farming, not working on a pipeline. Sure you'll put in some long hours for a few months in the summer. But you'll also have the entire winter (hunting season)off, wet days, idle days when you've laid your crop by and so on. Just about everybody I know is a farmer. I would trade their hours for my 8-5 any day.Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:03 pm to LSUballs
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Sure you'll put in some long hours for a few months in the summer.
Not quite, I can speak to the cane industry and it's 365.
You do have a month and a half in the winter and normally a month in the summer to slow down but those are times when you fix equipment and get ready for the next phase.
Past few years average 65-70 hour weeks with a few +100 hour weeks sprinkled in.
All depends on weather, like this year. There will be no summer vacation because spring was so wet. We still have fallow ground to prep for this fall's planting.
When it's dry, you fly.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:06 pm to stewie
7-5 on an average day.
6-9:30 during harvest.
Spraying, planting, dirt work you might go all night. Depends on weather.
Crawfishing is 6-3.
6-9:30 during harvest.
Spraying, planting, dirt work you might go all night. Depends on weather.
Crawfishing is 6-3.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:20 pm to LSUballs
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LSUballs
It's not the hours that make it tough. You can't schedule anything in your life.
It's all weather dependent. When we harvest depends on the mill, same for the finish date.
Planting is 247/365 unless it rains but we still work 50,hours a week when wet.
Thanksgiving - nope
Easter - nope
Christmas - maybe
New Years - maybe
Halloween - nope
Don't know how many birthdays, anniversaries, etc I have missed due to a time crunch on the farm.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:40 pm to stewie
I was referring to the lifestyles of my friends and family who farm in the Delta stewie. Sounds like you cane farmers have it a bit tougher. I fully realize the long hours and hard work it takes to be a farmer anywhere. I also realize all the off time they have while us working stiffs are cooped up in an office. Mainly I was just poking fun at NoColors assertion that you can kiss family time for a couple generations goodbye after you sign on for a laborious life of a farmer in the year 2017. That is not the case, at least around here.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 7:04 am
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:35 pm to stewie
Have 24 head of beef cattle. That's about it. Id like to get to the point where that's all I have to worry about but having a job and then trying to "fix" 360 acres that been neglected for years is very time consuming and more expensive than I can afford
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