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re: Nola.com article on possession limits for fish

Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20409 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:49 pm to
Do your wives or kids not have fishing license? If you have more than one license in your home you can have 100 fish. I don't see the reason anyone needs more than that.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:51 pm to
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What about taxidermy? Can a deer mount be displayed outside of hunting season?



Are you allowed to have Red Snapper in your freezer when the State season is closed?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

This article discusses possession limits, says filets in freezer count towards possession:


If LDWF is coming to your house to check your freezer, you probably got a whole lot worse problems than being over a possession limit on fish.

Got a wife and kids? That should be an extra 50 trout you can have in your freezer per person that lives there.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30107 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

This article discusses possession limits, says filets in freezer count towards possession:


This is what was explained to me back in the 70s. Not a new concept. The only time it is ever really applied, in my experience, is when poachers are busted or people illegally selling game fish.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30107 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Besides, isn't a possession limit defined as what you can have in your possession between the field and your home?


I don't think it is, I think it's just possession, period. As I stated in another response, that is what was understood by people in my family back in the 70s.
Posted by Maurice tiger fan
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2005
838 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:44 pm to
I fished all last week and had well over 200 trout in ice chest at the camp to clean at the end of the week. According to this I would have been screwed had they come over to the camp to check.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15090 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

grandparents lived in Minnesota my grand father would get nervous when the freezer started getting overloaded from all our fishing.


I have seen them do some freezer searches on the tv show Northwoods Law. It's usually related to a poacher or killing a moose/deer out of season or without a tag.
Posted by OntarioTiger
Canada
Member since Nov 2007
2115 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:55 pm to
Back in the day i worked at a lab on l erie and had access to all the walleye i wanted.... greenjeans was stationed there too and he said that we better not have more than 2 days possession limits in our freezers ....


So i left a lot of fish in a freezer at the lab .... or said they were perch ... no limit ;)
Posted by WPsportsman
In a van down by the river
Member since Jun 2015
2408 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Law also specifically says you can't filet on a boat or have trout parts on a boat,

If this is true what about a house boat or say on your boat on the way back to land from your houseboat/floating camp.. There are camps all over this state you can only get to by boat. So this is saying any fish you catch and clean have to stay at the camp? If true that's retarded.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4743 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:12 am to
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I fished all last week and had well over 200 trout in ice chest at the camp to clean at the end of the week. According to this I would have been screwed had they come over to the camp to check.


Well no shite you would have been illegal. And by reading your post, "I" and "I", with well over 200 in a week, you were illegal to begin with. Unless you meant "we", but I'm having doubts.
Posted by Downtown Devin Brown
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2013
1523 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:34 am to
Thought the same thing but then realized he said "week" not "weekend" so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:03 am to
In the early 90's, I knew someone that got the book thrown at them for transporting filets from a boat-only camp.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20409 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:14 am to
Playing Devil's Advocate, a guy lives on the water can he just have 500 fish in his freezer if the possession limit is 50? There has to be a limit somewhere right?

I love fish as much as anyone, but I don't know why anyone would need more than 100 trout in their freezer (wife and your license).
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4398 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:18 am to
quote:

I love fish as much as anyone, but I don't know why anyone would need more than 100 trout in their freezer (wife and your license)


The problem is how do you know how many fish are in the freezer? You can estimate but it's gonna be off by a good bit. What somebody has in their freezer is their business. If I go fishing everyday for a week and catch my limit everyday and clean them that day and freeze them I have done nothing wrong. Enforce what you can enforce and that's making sure people are taking too many and aren't taking under limit fish.
Posted by Pirate0714
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
426 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:20 am to
Father actually got checked yesterday by a warden while fishing yesterday. He asked him about this and said it is true about total possession limit, but they are more concerned with the guys catching a limit and swapping ice chests and catching another limit and are monitoring landings watching for people doing it.
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:34 am to
no he can't have 500 fish. he can have 500 filets, but not 500 fish. There's a difference between a filet and a fish. Creel/daily/possession limits apply to fish, not filets.

Take my hypothetical from earlier. I clean 25 14" specs, leaving me at the cleaning table with 50 10" filets. Am I in violation of any law? No, clearly. Why? because I don't have any fish.

If filets count as "fish" for number of fish in possession, then filets must also count as "fish" for size minimums. I'll buy you lunch if you can show me the statute or regulation which exempts filets from size limits. Hint: it doesn't exist. Why? because filets are not "fish" as defined by the statutes.

Take it to the extreme: I have 1 single 14" trout, clean it leaving me with 2 10" filets. According to the article and others on this board, I necessarily have to be in violation of the law at that point, as my filets are still "fish" so they have to be 12" long if a speck, so I now possess 2 undersized "fish". If it counts as a "fish" for possession, it also counts as a "fish" for size limits.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 9:35 am
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:15 am to
Just read the statute. R.S. 56:325.1(A)(3) reads, in part:

"(3) A recreational saltwater fisherman in possession of a valid basic and saltwater license may possess twice the daily bag limit of red drum and spotted sea trout; . . ."

It doesn't address parts or fillets. another statute does and says you can't have any on a boat.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:30 am to
This brings up another point. What happens if you give a few whole fish to your neighbor who doesn't have a license? Is it legal to possess whole fish without a license?
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4398 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:34 am to
quote:

This brings up another point. What happens if you give a few whole fish to your neighbor who doesn't have a license? Is it legal to possess whole fish without a license?


Ehhhh I think it depends. If somebody has a private pond they should be able to possess as many bass as they want. It's all a bunch of grey area. They need to focus on the black and white issues. Keeping undersized fish and taking over the limit of fish via dropping off fish at camp/truck.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20409 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:58 am to
Louisiana is lucky in that the fishery is very good so this has never been a major problem to enforce. But I've fished there and read the regs, and they are not clearly different then the countless other states I've fished in. There's countless ways 'around' the possession issue, and I've yet to meet anyone in any state that has had their home checked. But I have had my coolers checked. I think it was Minnesota that made you store your bagged filets in labeled bags by species.

Again I don't see why anyone feels they need more than 100 much less 200 filets in their freezer. If you feel the need to have more than 100 filets buy your wife a license. I fish enough to refresh them faster than I'd eat that many. I understand a big fish fry, but store them in a friends house or something. I just think the idea that you should be able to store an infinite amount of filets is allowing poachers too much room.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 11:00 am
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