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Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:18 pm
Posted by ToldYouSo1
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2018
20 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:18 pm
What’s the best go to for optics at night?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12663 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:20 pm to
Go thermal for a rifle scope. Thermion is one of the better options.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15843 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:22 pm to
I have a lot of fun with my Thermion 2 XP50.

I’ll be hog hunting all night this Friday with it.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:20 pm
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4212 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:11 pm to
Budget?
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:24 pm to
Agm, pulsar
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11458 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:29 pm to
I have the Super Hogster Thermal. Ran about $2500.
Posted by ct4lsu
BR
Member since Jan 2008
1034 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:34 pm to
AGM adder is very good.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
13046 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:11 pm to
Trijicon Thermal
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20729 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:17 pm to
My friend in Missouri that hog hunts swears by this scope as does his FIL and BIL


Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4212 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:38 am to
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My friend in Missouri that hog hunts swears by this scope as does his FIL and BIL


I beg everyone here not to waste your money on that scope.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25080 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 9:06 am to
quote:

What’s the best go to for optics at night?


Do you truly want what’s best? You didn’t give a budget. I ask because if you want what’s best, you’re looking at $10k plus.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:48 pm to
Ive used my buddy's pulsar as mentioned by others and it is friggin amazing...i just got a sightmark 5k mini nvg for $449 as a step into night stuff and if i keep at it will end up with a pulsar...have read some good reviews on the new sightmark thermal so will do more reading
Posted by SeaPickle
Thibodaux
Member since May 2011
3133 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

What’s the best go to for optics at night?

You said night vision - are you including thermal in this because that is what everyone has been throwing out.

Pulsar has some good night vision optics along with the sightmark wraith for the cheap route

Thermal is the king for night hunting.
For themral:
- what's your budget?
- what's your average shot distance?
- how often will you use the scope?
- target animal?
- Hunting out of a deer stand or off a tripod in open fields?

Do research on resolution, sensor sensitivity (mK rating), 12 vs 17 micron and scope features.

Don't take the word of random internet guys throwing out every name brand there is because their frields cousin shot 3 pigs with his new thermal. You are the one whose going to spend $3-$6k so know what you are getting

Do your needs lean better to a 3-3.5x base mag or a 2x base. Do you need higher resolution (640-1280) or would a 384 suit your needs?

Buy once. Cry once. 384 resolution optics are the lowest you should go. It might be great for your needs but the industry standard is 640 res. The tech is advancing to 1024-1280 res lately.

Most here will argue a 384 is sufficient and ill say it is for most because most buy these scopes and use them 5x a year. I thermal hunt 1-3x a week year round. I want the best.

I currently run a Pulsar Thermion XL50 LRF and have run the Pulsar Thermion 2 XP50 PRO LRF for the last two years. I have owned two pulsar trail 384 resolution scopes before that.

I have been around nvision, iray, agm and atn users. My opinion - outside of pulsar and nvision - save your money.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 9:36 pm
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2296 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:42 pm to
These units show some dramatic performance. Check the video-
VIDEO
InfiRay Outdoor RICO HD 1280x1024 RS75 2x 75mm Thermal Rifle Scope
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8395 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

Buy once. Cry once. 384 resolution optics are the lowest you should go.


Is that sensor resolution or display resolution?
Posted by SeaPickle
Thibodaux
Member since May 2011
3133 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 9:35 pm to
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sensor resolution or display resolution

Sensor resolution.

Display resolution for most pulsar scopes is an AMOLED 1024x768.

Extra fact: the thermion XL50 has a 1024x768 thermal sensor resolution and a 1024x768 screen resolution. 1:1 ratio allows for cleaner transmission of the thermal image making it a very crisp image. It also allows for better image retention when zooming.

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This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 9:40 pm
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4682 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 9:47 pm to
For hunting? For surveillance? For when the SHTF?
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8395 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 9:51 pm to
Thanks. I've been contemplating thermal for a while. I may wait for the price to come down. I'd be a 10-20 times a year night varmint hunter. Hogs aren't too bad but time to time we run the circle trap. Coyotes would be a plus as they've been after the cattle more lately. I'll be a 6mm ARC upper as I need to reach 500 yards.
Posted by SeaPickle
Thibodaux
Member since May 2011
3133 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

6mm ARC upper as I need to reach 500 yards


That is a hell of a poke, especially at night. You will need a high end thermal. High resolution 12 micron thermal.
Pulsar XL50 or XG50
Nvision Halo XRF

When you zoom a thermal you lose resolution. Double the zoom = half the resolution.

640 res at 3x is now 320 res at 6x
385 res at 3x is now 192 res at 6x

You get a low end thermal and start zooming in to a 500yd target you will be looking at a pixel blob.
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