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New truck spin-off, overhauling a GM motor.

Posted on 6/25/14 at 6:38 pm
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 6:38 pm
All this new truck talk, and lawd that is some high as giraffe pussy prices. So I have a 04 Silvarado, its burning some oil, has 105,000 and few things are broke (tail gate latch, console hinge broke) nothing major. To get the engine overhauled, what's the cost in ball park figures? Or should I just buy a refurbished engine? TIA.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17320 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 6:42 pm to
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Or should I just buy a refurbished engine?


I'm no mechanic and I could be wrong, but labor probably is what's going to eat you up either way. Might come out better getting a refurb.

eta: but first, what makes you think you absolutely need engine work?
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 6:44 pm
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 6:51 pm to
Its burning oil, like you Im no mecanic, so I would think it needs some type of engine work and thought maybe it would be cheaper to get it overhauled or buy another engine, so I could get another 5 years or so out of it. Gonna use it for hunting/hauling crap and such and hate to spend 25k to 40k on something I'm gonna trash, eventually. Probably close to my last truck purchase.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17320 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 6:56 pm to
A tune-up is way cheaper, and while they're in there they can check the compression. I'd do that before you mention to any shop that you're wanting to tear the whole thing down to the tune of a few grand. Might be as simple as a leaking head gasket.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:02 pm to
If it was a gasket, would I see oil on the ground and around the engine block or smokey exhaust?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56041 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:11 pm to
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few things are broke (tail gate latch, console hinge broke) nothing major.


funny, I have a 2005 and the exact same things have broken on mine...kinda pisses me off to hear that the same thing is breaking on all of them...

fwiw, buy repair parts for your tailgate latch on amazon for very little dollars...

how much oil is yours burning...
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17320 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:17 pm to
Don't start me to lying, but probably not. Could just be a slow leak into the cylinders. My engine has always burned a little oil. I changed the plugs in it last weekend and got pretty worried when I saw oil on the threads of the front and back plug. I asked a guy I work with who was a service tech at a GM dealership for years and he said he'd bet the farm it's a leaking head gasket, but as long as there was no oil on the tip of the plug then it's not a huge concern and to be expected with a high mileage engine.

Like I said best way to find out is to have someone who knows more than you and me pull the plugs and check the compression. An engine burning oil can come from a few different things, and not all of them are the end of the world.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:19 pm to
Very little I guess. I check and its down a little and only have to put a half of quart between changes and I change it about every 4k to 5k. Would just like to keep the truck and use it for hoop t purposes.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17320 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:21 pm to
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only have to put a half of quart between changes


I wouldn't even sweat that honestly, but have it checked out if it bothers you.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:27 pm to
Just looking ahead, and trying to get some ideas, and your reply has been helpful, thanks.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56041 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 7:39 pm to
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Very little I guess. I check and its down a little and only have to put a half of quart between changes and I change it about every 4k to 5k


I agree with drunken, I wouldn't even give that little oil useage a second thought....sounds to me like you have a good bit of mileage left on that truck...

may be something like valve stem seals, which are changeable without even removing the heads from the engine...

fwiw, your comment about your next truck being your last has got me thinking a bit and I don't really like what I am coming up with...


ETA: to answer your original question, very few mechanics would actually rebuild an engine for you...it just takes too much time for the amount they can make from the job...

almost all would rather buy what it called a "short block" and install that for you...quality of these short blocks varies considerably from very good (dealership) to unacceptable (discount auto parts store)...look up short block prices if you want an indication of "materials" cost associated with a rebuild
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
1891 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:03 pm to
I have a '02 2500hd crew with 260,000 miles on it and it runs like a dream. I hardly drive it any more, it hasn't been a daily driver since 2008, but still enjoy driving it when I can. i took it to the camp and use it on the farm now Air cold, 4x4 still works etc. It's got a small oil leak that drips down on I guess the manifold and gives a burning oil smell but that's about it. I told someone the other day that when the engine goes I will have it rebuilt etc. The truck is a tank, it's been stuck to the doors a numberof times pulled big tractors etc and still rolling
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
3215 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:37 pm to
GM had a know oil consumption problem in that era, hell they have had oil consumption problem in lots of their engines. Just keep adding oil and run the wheels off of her!!
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:46 pm to
Half a quart between changes is nothing to warrant a rebuilt.

Adding oil every hundred miles is when you start worrying a lot.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22169 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:05 pm to
But gm motors don't die...
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17715 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:29 am to
Burning oil could be simple valve seals I think a leak down test will tell you not sure that's not many miles
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:50 am to
I also have an 04 Silverado with 150,000 miles and she burns a little oil as well. A half a quart between changes is nothing. If you were adding a quart every time you filled up then I'd be worried. Get your replacement parts from eBay and look up how to videos by A1 Auto on YouTube if you need an assist on the parts replacement.

Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:09 am to
I'll try the leak down test. Like I said I see no oil on ground or in and around the motor itself. Hate to get rid of it because I'm tough on trucks. It was two years old when I bought it with low miles. Had to spend a 1500 on it back in 09 to rebuild the tranny, other than that, been a good truck, and don't have to baby it like I would a new truck, plus, I love the no payee of the montly noteee. And I'm 57, so I don't need no stinking, well, one of the best two smells in life anymore.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13049 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:10 am to
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only have to put a half of quart between changes and I change it about every 4k to 5k.


That's not even worth worrying about.
There are engines that use that much brand new, from any manufacturer.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16587 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:28 am to
That's normal, there's no such thing as an engine that doesn't burn a little oil over the course of an oil change interval. Half a quart in a V8 over 5000 miles is nothing to worry about and really good for a GM, especially if you are using non-synthetic 5w30. You can try switching to a 10w30 full syn if it really bugs you. Those engines rarely have issues with the shortblock, like the old 5.0 Fords your valve guides and seals will wear out before the pistons loose their seal by normal wear. Very easy pull the heads and freshen them up too.
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