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Need shop planning advice - do's and don'ts

Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:06 am
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
3769 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:06 am
Getting ready to build a shop in the backyard, looking at 24'W x 46'L x 12'H. I've looked up a few older threads here for advice also. I've looked at 3 options so far.

- Enclosed metal carport (carolina)
- I-beam metal building (quoted from majestic metals)
- Post-frame (mallett building)

I'm just looking for advantages and disadvantages of each or things you wish you had done different. Will be used to house 2 boats in the front while the back half will be for cooking and entertaining. Will run water and electricity also.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Getting ready to build a shop in the backyard,


Do- Build it twice as big as you think you will need.
Don't- Make it nice enough your wife wants to spend time in it.
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Build it twice as big as you think you will need.

Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38726 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:37 am to
If it's going to have a slab, put a drain in between the boats and another where you'll cook and entertain. That way boats out of the water or after a wash can go right in. Accidentally boil over your crawfish pot? Hose it down. Drunk friend kicks over a beer... hose it down.

That was the one piece of advice that stuck out to me when looking into building a metal building.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 11:40 am
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21909 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:40 am to
I'd go wider than 24' for 2 boat stalls.
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
3769 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:46 am to
Noted... do these buildings tend to sweat? Did you insulate? Window unit for summer?
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
3769 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:48 am to
I was told the widest Carolina does is 24'. If I go mallet I can go as wide as I want.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:53 am to
quote:

Do- Build it twice as big as you think you will need. Don't- Make it nice enough your wife wants to spend time in it.

This
Posted by kennahbra
Da Bayou
Member since Apr 2016
159 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:11 pm to
24 ft is wide enough for two boats. my garage is 24 x 26
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7871 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:20 pm to
I'm looking into the same thing and I'd like to have a loft on each end, but Mallett (pole barn) uses trusses that eat up that space.

I wish they also put up full metal buildings because they have a solid reputation.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:23 pm to
Mines insulated without ac. No sweating.
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
3769 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:35 pm to
i'd like a loft as well but the carolina won't support the weight, it'd have to be built in separate.

i'll probably end up with full metal.
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

I'm looking into the same thing and I'd like to have a loft on each end, but Mallett (pole barn) uses trusses that eat up that space.


I have a 30'x40' Mallett building and I just added a loft to mine.

I have a 12' eave height and the trusses aren't really that much of a problem for a storage area... if you want the loft for work space it would be a problem.

The loft is 7' off the ground leaving me about 5' of headroom to the trusses... I'm sure it's coming and I'll be cussing but I haven't hit my head yet... haha.

FYI: My loft is 8' x 30' and cost about $300. I used 1/2" OSB sheeting and 2"x6" Joists. I only used treated material on the stair stringers and posts because they were the only things touching the ground.



Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7871 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 3:14 pm to
That looks nice. I need to look at the costs of 12' eave pole barn vs. 10' full metal. I've called a couple of places today.

Did you compare costs on pole vs. full metal?
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 3:29 pm to
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Did you compare costs on pole vs. full metal?


No... I knew what I wanted before I built.

Mine was built in 2008 and it is 30'x40' with 12' eave height, 2 rollup doors, and it is the premium package from Mallett with NO CONCRETE and it was $10,700.

I poured the concrete myself for about $2,000. They wanted $15,900 with the concrete. I used the Fiber Concrete.

They did give me all of the aircraft cable and hardware to tie the posts together before pouring my slab.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 3:33 pm
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
3769 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 3:36 pm to
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Mine was built in 2008 and it is 30'x40' with 12' eave height, 2 rollup doors, and it is the premium package from Mallett with NO CONCRETE and it was $10,700.



They quoted me 16k on the ECONOMY building on 24x46x12 including the concrete, they quoted 24k on their premium building

A fully enclosed Carolina runs about 10k w/o concrete
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