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re: My baby girl got attacked by a dog

Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:55 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:55 am to
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I'm saying his lawyer should be worrying about this right now, not him.


meh, from what meaux said, I'd be furious at the situation with the woman already yacking her head off saying its not their fault while his daughter is laying their with that nasty open wound. She kick started the war, SHOCK AND AWE TIME BITCHES.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:56 am to
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Why do you not think he has a legit claim?
See, I never said that. I just questioned some of the statements of other posters. The key language is, "...caused by the dog and which the owner could have prevented..."

We could spend 12 pages on "could have prevented". It's really not an interesting conversation. Ultimately, whatever a judge or jury decides is likely to stand up on appeal.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:56 am to
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SHOCK AND AWE TIME BITCHES.



Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:58 am to
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oh its not? then why did MJ have the lawyer at the ER?
my lawyer is notified for any altercation that goes on with my family and is brought in as counsel to document what needs documenting.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:59 am to
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The key language is, "...caused by the dog and which the owner could have prevented..."



Yep, and that's why the dog being chained up hurts the case if anything. It shows that there were steps taken to prevent it. The question is whether those steps constituted a reasonable attempt to prevent it.

Also, remember dog bites are strict liability, therefore owners knowledge of the dogs tendencies to bite is not an element that needs to be shown.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:01 am to
Louisiana has strict liability for injuries caused by dogs, fwiw. Meaning that negligence doesn't have to be shown, only cause and damages. OF COURSE, in practice it's more complicated than that, but thats the gist of it.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:01 am to
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my lawyer is notified for any altercation that goes on with my family and is brought in as counsel to document what needs documenting.



which is very wise. being concerned about your daughter's welfare and being involved in your legal steps to protect your family's interest are not mutually exclusive.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:02 am to
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being concerned about your daughter's welfare and being involved in your legal steps to protect your family's interest are not mutually exclusive.

exactly.
I'll let him handle that legal shite since I'm pretty law ignorant myself.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:02 am to
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It shows that there were steps taken to prevent it. The question is whether those steps constituted a reasonable attempt to prevent it.


So chaining the dog in the front yard where the kids were playing and is able to hide under a car out of sight from children running around is hardly reasonable steps IMO. In reality, the dog was chained up most likely to prevent the bitch from running away, not to prevent the dog from harming a kid.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:03 am to
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Louisiana has strict liability for injuries caused by dogs, fwiw. Meaning that negligence doesn't have to be shown, only cause and damages.
Yeah, it's not like I didn't just quote directly from the statute.

I handle these BTW.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:05 am to
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In reality, the dog was chained up most likely to prevent the bitch from running away, not to prevent the dog from harming a kid.


Probably

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So chaining the dog in the front yard where the kids were playing and is able to hide under a car out of sight from children running around is hardly reasonable steps IMO


Without knowing the facts it's hard to say.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:08 am to
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Without knowing the facts it's hard to say.


well its hard to say with the facts similar to slip and fall cases. But in my opinion (not that legal) when you know you have kids running around on your property... you have to assume nothing when taking responsibility for the actions of your animals and so forth.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:08 am to
Mostplaces have leash laws. If I'm in the front yard for an extended period of time, I'll often leash my dog out there with me. In order of importance: law>protect the dumb-arse dog from cars>prevent bites. I say that because she's never bitten anything that wasn't a rodent or marsupial.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:08 am to
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Yeah, it's not like I didn't just quote directly from the statute.

You did a poor job of explaining it. Get over yourself.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:09 am to
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AlxTgr



Generally speaking when looking at the facts from a judge or jury's perspective... does the victim being a kid change the facts of a case pretty drastically? Not that the judge feels sorry for the kid but that it puts more burden on the animal's owner on taking responsibility of how things are handled?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:09 am to
right. Main issue would be length of the chain, where the children were playing, and where the dog was chained.
Posted by dat yat
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:11 am to
Sorry to hear that. I hope she gets better soon.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:13 am to
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You did a poor job of explaining it. Get over yourself.
Not my fault you're continually impersonating a lawyer here. Me get over myself? fricking moron.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81616 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:14 am to
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Generally speaking when looking at the facts from a judge or jury's perspective... does the victim being a kid change the facts of a case pretty drastically? Not that the judge feels sorry for the kid but that it puts more burden on the animal's owner on taking responsibility of how things are handled?
I cannot answer that.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:19 am to
how about this article?
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WATSON- A young girl is recovering after a pit bull bit her over the weekend. Livingston Parish Deputies said the dog was chained up and behind a fence when the attack happened. "The child was in the vicinity of the dog, which was restrained, it was inside a fenced in area, not real sure what happened but the end result, the child had a pretty serious injury," said Perry Rushing with the Livingston Parish Sheriff's Office. Deputies cited the owner of the dog charging them with unlawful ownership of a dangerous dog, because they believe the dog was unprovoked when it bit the girl. Officials say, even though the dog was restrained, the owner is still on the hook for its actions. "You're still responsible, you have to make extra sure that the child is protected from your animal even if you suspect nothing like this could ever happen, it's still your responsibility as a pet owner to protect anybody who's on your property from your animals," said Rushing. A judge will decide if the dog should be euthanized.
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