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Legal way to create open water in rice field?

Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:44 am
Posted by NorthEnd
Member since Oct 2007
2149 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:44 am
If I’m hunting a flooded rice field with standing rice(uncut) but want to create an open water area for ducks to land-it seems like there’s some gray area there in terms of legality. How can I do it so it’s not considered baiting?
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7549 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:45 am to
buffalo the rice, but needed to do that before it was flooded.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48946 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:07 am to
Nutria on a leash tied to a steak
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:08 am to
Typically we buffalo or bush hog before the second crop heads out, or cut the first crop with your header all the way down. Honestly not sure what you can do at this point.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2545 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:14 am to
If you figure a way please let us know. The nutria on a leash might be the only option
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22173 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:37 am to
Crop circles baw
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:09 am to
According to all I've heard, if it's unharvested you can't manipulate it at all. If it's on second crop, maybe you can roll it down. We've used a 6' long pipe (bollard) drug behind a 4 wheeler before to roll down the stubble. Of course that's after harvest.
Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
1489 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Nutria on a leach tied to a steak


Wouldn't he just eat the steak?
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48946 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:31 am to
Nah, they don't like steak that much, it gets stuck between the big orange teeth
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5272 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:35 am to
Anything done that would not be considered a normal agricultural practice for rice production or crawfish production in flooded rice fields would put you jeopardy with the law. For example, if you were creating open area trapping lanes to place crawfish traps in flooded rice field of un-cut rice by using a wheeled crawfish combine to lay down the rice that would be considered by crawfish aquaculture experts a “normal” or common practice for crawfish production, although most trappers would rather cut trapping lanes prior to flooding. I wouldn’t be willing to potentially go to court over it if LDWF enforcement didn’t see it that way.
Posted by Specklebelly
Member since Aug 2017
75 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 12:17 pm to
If it’s second crop, does the farmer plan on harvesting it? If so just wait till it’s cut then buffalo or plow the entire cut and flood it. If he doesn’t plan on harvesting it, then I would consult wildlife and fisheries because it might be considered natural vegetation under the law if the first crop was harvested initially, but good luck getting a straight answer.
I think buffaloing rice stubble is a standard agricultural practice but being the rice is headed out, it could be considered baiting and I think the actual baiting law is setup to leave it up to the wardens discretion if you get checked.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11447 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:03 pm to
Buffalo/Snake Charmer/Roller-Crimper/whatever you want to call it.

If it’s unharvested, you’ll just have to figure out a way to do it without making a noticeable footprint and claim it lodged or wind did it. A friend with a helicopter would come in handy as shite.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10453 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

How can I do it so it’s not considered baiting?



If it's unharvested and flooded, you are kinda screwed because anything you do will be considered manipulation. Do you have geese in this area because if you do, they will wipe that shite out with the quickness and you will have nothing but barren open water in about 24 hours after they bulldoze it.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12719 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:28 pm to
Long story short, you're out of luck.

Last year when everything was going on with soybeans, I had a guy contact me asking for advice on a soybean field that had been plowed under for insurance purposes. The agent he talked to informed him that it would be considered baiting because it was not a normal agricultural practice.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13947 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:42 pm to
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The agent he talked to
This is his problem. Don't ask, don't tell.
Posted by NorthEnd
Member since Oct 2007
2149 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:48 pm to
It looks like rice that gets squashed though normal bird retrieval, decoy deployment etc. is acceptable. I guess I can ride around putting decoys out for an hour or so.
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