- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
1
Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:51 am to Who Me
quote:
Officers are conducting miniature roadside investigations on each traffic stop. Besides the obvious answer to the question officers often are looking to see what the drivers response will be to certain questions.
Why are you violating someones rights by investigating them for a crime they did not commit?
Charge them for the traffic violation and be gone!
you seem to be the problem, not the solution...that is why my brother is retiring soon...he can't stand all the little big man syndrome most of the young guys come in with and even some of the veterans have, that make them feel it is ok to violate peoples GOD given constitutional rights...
Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:55 am to bulldog95
Its a toss up with the cops around here.
Im not sure if you live in Shreveport, but a few years ago (around 2009 IIRC), they were BEGGING people to apply.
They set up a table outside of WalMart on Bert Kouns trying to get applicants.
Also, look at the news once every other 5 minutes and one of them is arrested for something.
No disrespect to the decent officers, but as a citizen of the city, the department has a very stained look to me, due to the many frick ups they have hired over the years.
Im not sure if you live in Shreveport, but a few years ago (around 2009 IIRC), they were BEGGING people to apply.
They set up a table outside of WalMart on Bert Kouns trying to get applicants.
Also, look at the news once every other 5 minutes and one of them is arrested for something.
No disrespect to the decent officers, but as a citizen of the city, the department has a very stained look to me, due to the many frick ups they have hired over the years.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:56 am to Hurricane Mike
I don't know I didn't get that friendly with them.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:57 am to Polar Pop
I live in the country but I drive into shreveport everyday. Been here since early 2000's.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:59 am to bulldog95
quote:
no use being a jackass about it
My reply really wasn't aimed at you other than the Congratulations Part...the rest was for the boot lickers...
quote:
I had nothing to hide
That is the big problem today...so many think that just because you have nothing to hide, you should submit to illegal searches by authority figures...this mindset is breeding more Constitutional illiterate people that just accept this as the norm.
The Constitution was written the way it was for a reason...those sworn to protect and uphold it seem to have forgotten about that!
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:04 am to Pepperidge
I wasn't referring to you or your post. Just a general observation. Now if I had something weapon wise I didn't want anyone to know about then whole different story.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:55 am to REB BEER
quote:
When you get stopped, tough guy, you just go ahead and challenge the cops. Your 5 minute traffic stop will probably turn into a several hour ordeal.
Why should I give up my rights in this situation? If I am ever asked if I have a firearm with me, my answer would be yes and I would openly state where it/ they were located. My truck has two loaded firearms right now as a matter of fact.
The fact that I have firearms that I purchased that are not bothering anyone in their secure location is no reason to handle them, run serial numbers, discuss them, etc. This is not about being a tough guy, as it is about being an American citizen protected by laws that were written by our forefathers many years ago. I do not allow anyone to handle my firearms in any capacity unless I unload it and hand it to them knowing that it is unloaded at all times. I don't care if it is a law enforcement officer, my father, or any one of my trusted friends.
I don't agree with the way the traffic stop went by OP's accounts. This is not standard practice in any law enforcement division in America. If you can show me where it is SOP, I will contact an attorney myself to shoot this down. SWIDT.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 11:08 am to Who Me
quote:
This issued has been discussed here before.
I know many here don't like it but the law is going to favor officer safety in this situation.
Generally I ask wether a weapon is present in the vehicle or the drivers person immediately after identifying the driver and informing him/her of the nature of the stop. It is a very important question.
what would you do if someone said no weapon, then you noticed a weapon later on in the stop?
Posted on 3/29/15 at 11:35 am to KingRanch
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:05 pm to bulldog95
This is turning into a legal argument that's already been hashed out before. Too many guys trying to be badass internet lawyers in here. The OB is too good of a place for that.
I'm glad that you had a positive interaction with the officers that you encountered.
I'm glad that you had a positive interaction with the officers that you encountered.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:06 pm to bulldog95
quote:
I respect the police and their jobs are hard enough without getting mouth from me or anyone else.
Ok.
But the scenario you outlined is another way the lawful ownership of guns is being deterred in this country.
When it comes to taking away our gun rights, law enforcement agencies are the first people in line.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:09 pm to bulldog95
This has happened to me... About 10 years ago in BR brpd pulled me over for speeding. He asked if i had any weapons, told him there was a loaded pistol in the console. he got me out of the car, removed the gun, carried it back to his car by the trigger guard. ran the numbers for 15 minutes then handed it back to me field stripped. I asked why he stripped it, he said "so you dont try to shoot me when i give you all these tickets"
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:17 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:
Is it standard operating procedure for a cops to ask about guns w/ every traffic stop? Surely there's more to the story.
Last time I got stopped they did the same to me. They actually asked about "drugs or weapons". I said no drugs, so they had me step out of the vehicle.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:41 pm to bulldog95
quote:
End of story. Never asked if they could search my vehicle they just did.
Illegal search IMO.
Cops wonder why people don't like them.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:45 pm to Who Me
quote:
I'm glad that you had a positive interaction with the officers that you encountered.
He thought it was positive.
I would have felt violated.
I would have also recorded the interaction (audio at least) and stated that I do not consent to a search.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 2:00 pm to bulldog95
quote:That is your perception, I consider searching my vehicle and running serial numbers a violation by arrogant a-holes. For all you know they could have been adding you and your firearm to some unconstitutional national database to use later when the liberals outlaw firearms. They're obviously corrupt because they didn't charge you for breaking the law which is why you were stopped to begin with.
It's a respect thing to me they are just doing their job and neither one of them were in any way arrogant a-holes.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/29/15 at 2:49 pm to bulldog95
Are you black?
Posted on 3/29/15 at 2:50 pm to weagle99
quote:
He thought it was positive.
I would have felt violated.
I would have also recorded the interaction (audio at least) and stated that I do not consent to a search.
This. I have a huge problem with this and with running the serial numbers of the gun. I think the courts would too.
The "officer safety" excuse to search for a weapon in the car is solely to give the officer a reason to look for other illegal activity. The officer got to dig through the OP's console. It doesn't matter if the officer found illegal items or the person who's right were being violated was completely innocent and nothing illegal was there. It is a violation either way.
Just say no. They have to have probable cause to search your vehicle. If they do and they find a weapon, "Oh, I forgot."
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:16 pm to dawg23
quote:
Not sure what court ruling you're referring to, but I always enjoy reading them if you have a cite.
I'm saying they are looked at differently in courts in general. Things you can do to protect yourself in your home are looked at differently than if you are in a vehicle, the biggest being mobility. You can't drive away in your house but have the ability to drive away in a car.
Not an exact court case but you get what I'm saying.
Thanks for clearing it up.
Page 4 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News