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I'm about to purchase my first hunting lab
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:11 pm
Seriously considering purchasing a blm from this litter. Thoughts? Does anyone have a lab from Miles or Rally from Y-Farms? Or ever purchase a dog from them? Looks like they come from a pretty good pedigree. I've searched through a lot of the old OB threads on people getting new lab puppies so I know that your cousin is selling a great lab for $400 next month or that you think I should rescue but I want to be as confident as I can be that will grow up healthy and that it'll be a dog that wants to learn.
I'm in Lafayette so I have been searching online for a trainer from around here. Just saw that the national dog handler of the year is a man from Opelousas and his son is a trainer in Broussard. Ken and Chad Vidrine. Does anyone have any experience with them? Or any other trainer recommendations around Lafayette? I would prefer a trainer near Lafayette so I can visit as regularly as possible.
This is what our marsh has looked like for the past few years. Good amount of underwater grass in addition to the lilies shown in the pictures the dog will have to work through.
From what I gather that means I'd probably want a smaller lab?
I'm in Lafayette so I have been searching online for a trainer from around here. Just saw that the national dog handler of the year is a man from Opelousas and his son is a trainer in Broussard. Ken and Chad Vidrine. Does anyone have any experience with them? Or any other trainer recommendations around Lafayette? I would prefer a trainer near Lafayette so I can visit as regularly as possible.
This is what our marsh has looked like for the past few years. Good amount of underwater grass in addition to the lilies shown in the pictures the dog will have to work through.
From what I gather that means I'd probably want a smaller lab?
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 11:30 am
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:18 pm to Mac
I don't know much about labs, but your sig pic makes me throw up in my mouth every time I look at it closely.... 
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:28 pm to Spankum
That's Mac from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Pic is from when he was "cultivating mass" (gaining 50 pounds).
Posted on 1/3/17 at 11:22 pm to Mac
no disrespect to any pedigree or trainer, but I'll take a liter runt with heart, desire and an eagerness to please with positive reinforcement rather than a god awfully expensive "paper pedigree champion" that requires special "shock collar" negative reinforcement and forced behavior "training" to produce the desired behavior...
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:40 am to Mac
If you plan on using the pro trainer, ask them if they know of any upcoming litters. $1100 goes a long way in finding a well bred blm. I would want more than a HRCH x HR for that amount. Those may be great young dogs though.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:45 am to pjab
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If you plan on using the pro trainer, ask them if they know of any upcoming litters. $1100 goes a long way in finding a well bred blm. I would want more than a HRCH x HR for that amount. Those may be great young dogs though.
Sounds like the right order instead of buying dog then finding a trainer. I have no idea about labs, but people in here have posted quite a few Facebook pages that help.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:56 am to Mac
i have a y farms lab. excellent dog.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:01 am to Melvin Spellvin
What are you talking about?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:03 am to Mac
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"cultivating mass"
Just that phrase makes me chuckle
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:17 am to Mac
The last y farms dog I saw weighs like 50 pounds fully grown. She may be tiny but that's a hell of a marsh dog
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:37 am to Mac
Any breeder worth a damn usually does not have puppies on the ground for sale
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:42 am to Melvin Spellvin
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that requires special "shock collar" negative reinforcement
I wouldn't call shock collars special. They are pretty much a staple for most trainers.
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forced behavior "training" to produce the desired behavior...
So you don't believe in force fetching?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 7:10 am to Mac
Good looking pups. I cannot believe what labs are going for today, $1100.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 7:15 am to Mac
quote:He is from Ville Platte originally, which is where I am from, heard nothing but great things about him as a person AND as a trainer.
Chad Vidrine
Posted on 1/4/17 at 7:20 am to Redfish2010
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The last y farms dog I saw weighs like 50 pounds fully grown. She may be tiny but that's a hell of a marsh dog
labs aren't supposed to be 80-100 lbs... just saying....
Posted on 1/4/17 at 7:28 am to choupiquesushi
If the dog is not free and you are going to spend time and/or money training it - forget lineage - health clearances....
You don't want to be 2 years into training and finally have a hunting machine at 3 years old only to come up with lame hips, eyes or elbows. and by hunting machine, I mean a dog that doesn't need an e collar for hunting(pointing dogs not withstanding - tracking collars).....
I know someone very well that spent 2000 on a pup (a pup of with an NAFC sire) and another 2-3k on training only to have pup be hip displasia nightmare. While these are not guarantees they certainly stack the odds in your favor.
You don't want to be 2 years into training and finally have a hunting machine at 3 years old only to come up with lame hips, eyes or elbows. and by hunting machine, I mean a dog that doesn't need an e collar for hunting(pointing dogs not withstanding - tracking collars).....
I know someone very well that spent 2000 on a pup (a pup of with an NAFC sire) and another 2-3k on training only to have pup be hip displasia nightmare. While these are not guarantees they certainly stack the odds in your favor.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:32 am to choupiquesushi
I'm going to ask about the parents health clearances. Health down the line is why I'm willing to drop some coin. I know there is no guarantee but I'll be more comfortable if I know both parents have gotten checked out as healthy. I'd rather pay more for the puppy than for health care later.
Speaking of health, can anyone recommend a vet in Lafayette?
Speaking of health, can anyone recommend a vet in Lafayette?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:39 am to Mac
Find your trainer first. They'll either approve the pup you want or have a lead on a better dog that is already started.
That's what you want unless you just want to have him during the puppy phase a couple months before serious training starts.
That's what you want unless you just want to have him during the puppy phase a couple months before serious training starts.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:47 am to Cracker
I'd agree for really high end dogs. They aren't sold as much as they are placed.
OP, something else to think about. FC or GRMHCH are available for stud. If you had a young female with a lot of potential and desired traits, would you not look beyond your own kennel for the stud? The breeder may believe this is what is best breeding for a variety of reasons. You will be investing a lot of time, money, and effort into someone else's product. Also, expand your search area. You may come back to this exact breeding, at least you will know.
OP, something else to think about. FC or GRMHCH are available for stud. If you had a young female with a lot of potential and desired traits, would you not look beyond your own kennel for the stud? The breeder may believe this is what is best breeding for a variety of reasons. You will be investing a lot of time, money, and effort into someone else's product. Also, expand your search area. You may come back to this exact breeding, at least you will know.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:58 am to Mac
My first lab was out of the same dame that this litter's sire came from. I now have the second generation removed from that original chocolate male that I purchased from Y farms from my own breeding.
I you can manage it, you buy that pup from Y farms, spend the first several months working with it, and send it off for 4 months to be ready for Teal season. In the end, you will have a dog that has bonded with you from the time spent with it as a pup as well as a highly competent duck dog from a trainer.
I highly, highly recommend this kennel, especially this chocolate sire's line. You will be very pleased to have this dog.
I you can manage it, you buy that pup from Y farms, spend the first several months working with it, and send it off for 4 months to be ready for Teal season. In the end, you will have a dog that has bonded with you from the time spent with it as a pup as well as a highly competent duck dog from a trainer.
I highly, highly recommend this kennel, especially this chocolate sire's line. You will be very pleased to have this dog.
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