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re: How do yall feel about poisoning feral hogs?

Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by stein_burgundy
Member since Jan 2016
831 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:30 pm to
What I can't understand is why they are limiting the season on hogs on federal and state lands? One of the places we hunt, you used to be able to hunt them incidental to any open hunting season. Now it has changed to only incidental to deer hunts with the weapon open at the time. So even though squirrel season would be open, you couldn't hunt them with a shotgun, only a bow.

I enjoy hunting pigs but I would enjoy it more if I could do it year round on the public areas I hunt.

As far as poisoning, it would make me skeptical of ever eating a wild hog again if they start poisoning them.
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:39 pm to
You could tell by looking at the animal's insides it has ingested the poison or not. It causes hemorrhaging so the inside would look like a bloody mess.

This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
1508 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:59 pm to
The hogs have got to go. They are so far out of control on certain properties that's its ruined the land and the outdoor enjoy. Trapping and hunting are simply not the answer.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:36 pm to
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Trapping and hunting are simply not the answer.


I sort of agree and I sort of don't. They have not been effective partially because of restrictions and lack of incentives. I still believe a biological population control option could be viable just not this sloppy option.

There should be a nation wide 24/7 open season on hogs. No restrictions of means of acquisition as long as it is off of legal roadways and not trespassing. The transfer of live wild hogs should require a license and each hog should be accounted for to assure they are not re released for sport hunting purposes and only transported for final processing reasons. There should be limitations that all spin feeders must have hog panel around them to prevent hogs from getting to the feed and/or the feeder be designed for gravity feed above a height that limits hog access.

The legal red tape at food pantries and other donations sites should be lifted so that hunters and trappers can donate the meat without the additional cost of having to pay someone to process it first.

continued work on hog selective contraceptive should be explored.

and land owners should be given credit against property taxes for number of traps in use per acre and number of hogs trapped an killed per year.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13901 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:27 pm to
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Trapping and hunting are simply not the answer.
I disagree. I think trapping is the best resource to eliminate numbers. Trapping is a long-term proposition though and you have to be persistent. I'd go 3-4 weeks with zero activity, then drive up one morning and there's 12 in the trap. I think in order to "clean up" mature, trap saavy pigs, night hunting and/or dog hunting could be utilized.


But if you're trapping and you're neighbor is selling hog hunts, well you're pissing in the wind. That's where the public perception issue comes in. I read an article in La Sportsman last week where David Moreland, the retired whitetail guru for LDWF, said he hopes feral pigs are never fully eradicated because he likes to hunt them. WTF dude???? I view this opinion as extremely short sighted.

EDIT: Story was on NOLA.com
NOLA.com Dave Morland Hog hunting
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
1508 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:32 pm to
Without a doubt there should be some restrictions lifted on hunting and trapping.
Also, I don't get the transport of live hogs. It should be illegal and no permits allowed. Our area had hogs introduced by means of human transport. People should be put under the jail for this. The amount of destruction on our property and nearby properties is at a high cost.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:01 pm to
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I don't get the transport of live hogs. It should be illegal and no permits allowed


I trap and usually kill the hogs in the traps and then take the meat as needed/wanted. I also trap and live transport to a buyer who then sells them to a Ft Worth processor. At one point he was paying .50 per lb live weight. Trust me when I say that is a hell of a lot more incentive to keep running traps and buying corn for bait than just filling an already overflowing freezer (and all of my friends freezers).

Unless you have methodically and systematically trapped on a large area you likely don't understand the time and money committed to the process. We have 8 traps on a single 1400 acre ranch (considerably easier than when we had 14 spread all over the county). Each trap costs about $125 to build and takes a little over 2 hours to erect. Each trap is pre-baited with a 50 lb bag of corn at $8.00. Then let sit a week or more with the door tied open. Then it is re-baited and set with another 25-50 lbs of corn. After which that trap needs to be checked everyday until it either catches, or I decide to lock open again. Leaving the hogs in a trap more than a few hours increases the risk of trap damage or escape. Leaving them more than a day if temps are over 80 increases risk of hog death. The roundtrip time to just check all 8 traps is a little over an hour. If a trap does catch depending on the # and size of the hogs it can take 30 min to 2 hours to kill/process all the meat. Every time one catches it takes 30 min and about $10 to reset with corn and new trip wire.


All in all trapping is costly and time consuming, even though the entire family enjoys the process. being able to sell live hogs to a processor should be encouraged BUT there should be no reason to transport a live hog with intent to let loose.

Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12538 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:53 pm to
I feel pretty good about it if it rids of the damn problem. I get tired of repairing feeders, fence, pasture, and anything else them nasty bastards can frick up. I don't eat the sumbitchez so I'm not worried about that.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 5:00 pm to
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The hogs have got to go


This. All these folks talking about how much they like to eat them dont realize what is going to eventually happen if they are not demolished, in a hurry.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1478 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 6:28 pm to
Indeed. The damage done to agriculture is staggering. No man's pleasure is worth the destruction of others' livelihoods.

And those saying they're fine with setting any and everyone loose on their place at all times to hunt hogs have probably never owned and tended much land.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
1508 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:33 pm to
Well thought out and written, but I'm well aware of the cost and effort that goes into trapping hogs. I'm glad you could recoup some money, but trapping as a whole doesn't cut it. Hogs should not be transported live under any condition because the rule benders have screwed the pooch there.
As soon as the poison hits open market, I'm buying every bit I can get.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:48 am to
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As soon as the poison hits open market, I'm buying every bit I can get.


Hopefully it won't. Far to many dumbasses that wouldn't use it appropriately.
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3733 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:54 am to
How much open land you have? Any access for helicopter hunt? I know a guy.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13901 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:08 pm to
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Indeed. The damage done to agriculture is staggering. No man's pleasure is worth the destruction of others' livelihoods. And those saying they're fine with setting any and everyone loose on their place at all times to hunt hogs have probably never owned and tended much land.
Exactly.
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