How are there no dog training threads in Flair Chops OB How To's?

Great dogs, I have two myself. Where are you getting the pup from?

Goldmine Retrievers
Winnsboro Louisiana, 71295
(337) 842-1948 Williamson.joseph@yahoo.com

This guy runs some great Goldens in the Hunt Test circuits. I'd reach out to him.

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I let mine run around my property 3 or 4 times a day to get some energy out

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Yea I'm in a bad spot on that, I'll have to do plenty of driving to get the pup the space he needs to run around. Have property to do it, its just a few miles away. Just moved into a rough neighborhood to get an investment property off the ground, wont be walking the dog outside much there. Im not too far from SLU so ill be walking him around there as soon as he gets all his shots. I just want to train him before that

My pups parents are about to have another litter if anyone is looking for a little red firecracker.

That's a good looking dog man. Looks ready to retrieve. Mine just chase whatever you throw, and either sniff it and leave it, or get it and run away from you with it.

Is that a Binelli SBE3?

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never had a golden and I'm pretty excited about it

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I have an 11y/o Topbrass golden and am on the list for another. Have you worked with labs before? Goldens are pretty similar in a lot of ways but also pretty different. This is all speaking in generalities and there are always exceptions, but dog training used to be a side hobby/hustle of mine and I've worked with a lot of labs and goldens. In any case, insert "generally" into every single sentence here and I'm sure everybody has a lab or golden that contradicts everything I'm about to say.

Goldens are more thoughtful dogs and they have incredibly strong senses of smell, both of which can get them into trouble if they aren't trained at obeying and force at a distance. Emphasis on whistle work and e-collar conditioning unless you have something against that. They are also more biddable, but you have to be careful with them with pressure. They are not as tough as your average lab when it comes to heavy-handed training and too much pressure can really mess them up. A lab is more likely to run through an obstacle, whereas a golden is going to try to figure out a way around it. I have found that positive reinforcement training is a lot more effective with goldens. I probably could have gotten away without forcing my current dog when she was a puppy, but old habits. A golden is more apt to obey a command because it genuinely wants to make you happy, whereas a lab is more apt to do something because of prey drive/training.

Goldens are super social compared to labs and I would echo the earlier posters advice about bringing them everywhere early and often. They are much more apt to greet people and show affection whereas labs are more laissez faire, easy-going type dogs. This is all of course subject to individual personality types (and age), but again, just speaking in generalities.

They are basically labs with long hair and a little different brain chemistry, so you'll be fine. Both (field bred) breeds are highly energetic, hyper focused, cold-tolerant, love retrieving/water, and generally awesome dogs.

Enjoy the process. I can't wait to get a puppy to work with again. Some books/videos I really like: (1) 10 Minute Retriever (Dahl), (2) Finished Dog (Jurney), (3) Fowl Dawgs (Stawski), (4) Mike Lardy's videos. All are great. Even if you aren't planning to hunt the dog a lot, obedience is the foundation of all hunting programs and training can be really fun and rewarding. It can also make you want to put your head through a wall. Most important thing IMO is finding a program that works for you and sticking to it. My program is kind of a combination of the first two books above.

It's harder to break a bad habit than it is to teach it. Don't let them do anything you don't want them to keep doing.

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What do you mean by biddable?

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I mean it as kind of like agreeable/willing to accept training.

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I try my best to work solely with positive reinforcement, but there are a couple of times I use negative reinforcement, mostly when my puppy becomes treat aggressive with the other two. Had to stop that as soon as it started.

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I have used negative reinforcement a few times with my current dog, but I try to avoid it just because of what you said. Too much of it can elicit a negative reaction and strip confidence/make the pup timid.

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Goldens do some goofy crap though. I love watching my goldens play. And pretty often they lay in the oddest positions.

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Endless entertainment . Going back to the lab/golden comparison, I feel like goldens are normally a lot more social with each other as well than a lot of labs I've been around. The field bred dogs have such vibrant personalities. I probably have 500 photos over the years on my camera roll of my current dog in some completely contorted upside down pretzel shape on my couch.

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he field bred dogs have such vibrant personalities. I probably have 500 photos over the years on my camera roll of my current dog in some completely contorted upside down pretzel shape on my couch.

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Thanks for the explanation. That's kinda what I was thinking but not entirely sure.

The breed that the OP is getting is a show golden bred with a field golden. My pups from the same place seem to have more of the field golden traits than show, but a little of both seem to come through.