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re: Handgun for home protection and hiking (I know nothing about guns)
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Wheelgun is the obvious answer here.
I am a big revolver fan, however I can't think of a revolver that would be light and pack a bigger punch without extreme recoil punishment.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:03 pm to weagle99
I wouldn't worry about light as much as horsepower if there were bears around, but that's just me. I carry around 8 pounds of shite in my pockets at work every day so I'm a little off base I guess.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:07 pm to weagle99
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I like the 1911 and wouldn't consider it unreliable
Neither do I, and I do actually own one. There are firearms that I believe hold up better under abuse, but it's incredible that they're still going strong after more than a century. It's just fun to go against the 1911 fanaticism on this board. KingRanch takes is personally... I swear the guy is a relative of JMB.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:08 pm to Yat27
This is what I'd have
.44 special for the bedstand
.44 thermonuclear magnums for woods
.44 special for the bedstand
.44 thermonuclear magnums for woods
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:12 pm to KingRanch
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Posted by Message KingRanch
1911's can be finicky and can take some fine tuning to get them running flawlessly. My brothers 1911 carry gun couldn't go 4 rounds without a malfunction. Not exactly good odds if your life depends on it. He carries a glock 19 now.
I love 1911's but let's not pretend that they don't have loose tolerances that can cause a slew of issues
*edited for grammar
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:16 pm to NawlinsTigah270
I carried a S&W model 27 in .357 magnum when I was in the mountains...didn't realize how vulnerable I was until a freind got robbed and cut at a boat ramp in lafayette...now, if I am away from civilization, I carry...
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:24 pm to tiddlesmcdiddles
I just have a little .32 (couldn't even tell you the make or model) that my father-in-law gave me. It's heavy for it's size, but my wife can shoot it with relative ease since there is next to no recoil.
The reason I carry this gun on the trail is for protection against assholes, not bears. I've hiked since I was a kid and come acrossed two bears in 24 years, both of which completely ignored me and moved along their way.
If I have to hike down the trail to a water source, or something, I make my wife carry it on her hip while I am gone. We've not had a cause to use it, but I have come back to camp and found people talking to her. You never which way that conversation would have gone without a pistol hanging from her hip.
The reason I carry this gun on the trail is for protection against assholes, not bears. I've hiked since I was a kid and come acrossed two bears in 24 years, both of which completely ignored me and moved along their way.
If I have to hike down the trail to a water source, or something, I make my wife carry it on her hip while I am gone. We've not had a cause to use it, but I have come back to camp and found people talking to her. You never which way that conversation would have gone without a pistol hanging from her hip.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:39 pm to NawlinsTigah270
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NawlinsTigah270
Thanks for stopping by the OB for your firearm needs. You are in good hands.
If you may be leaning towards getting a revolver, I think Weagle and Downshift are two of the most knowledgeable here (sorry if I am forgetting someone!). They can point you in the right direction to a solid 357 mag or 44 mag.
Now, for a woods gun you also need to consider weight. Like others said, a steel revolver will be pretty hefty. But the upside is that you can load those thermonuclear rounds that Downshift alluded to. Revolvers are built for some extremely high horsepower rounds. They can dish out the pain, to put it bluntly.
Now if you want a general home defense and woods pistol just in general, I think you may get some good use out of a 10mm. It is a bit expensive to shoot since the ammo isn't as common but it is one of the higher power semi auto cartridges out there that would work well against 2 or 4 legged attackers. 357 Sig is another oddball round but doesn't have the capacity to shoot as heavy of a bullet as a 10mm. Typically, the heavier the bullet, the farther the bullet will penetrate. If you have a heavy, fast round, that is very good for the woods.
I would also consider an 18" 12 gauge shotgun. A shotgun is one of the most versatile weapons on the planet. It can be loaded to pop quail, ducks, geese, turkey, deer, people, bear, moose, etc. You can use a multitude of shotgun ammo for different situations. Then again, it is a long gun and will be a bit more to lug around in the woods. But 5-7 rounds of buckshot can lay a hurting on most anything in the woods.
If you're still thinking about a handgun though, this video may clear up a few things although it doesn't perfectly pertain to woods carry.
First Time Firearm Buyers
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:39 pm to 4WHLN
quote:So it starts falling apart after a few years?
It's the Cadillac of guns.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:40 pm to NawlinsTigah270
Glock 21 (.45) has a 13 round capacity. Having that many bullets would be nice if you had to put down something large.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:06 pm to boom roasted
You said (I know nothing about guns)
Your first handgun must be a revolver.
If you have the funds for more than one gun, buy a .22 revolver and practice shooting with it responsibly. Google "the 10 rules of gun safety", learn them and take a gun safety course. Don't let your pride get in the way - you will be a more responsible gun owner for it.
After you've put yourself through the paces, and decide to get a different gun, consider a larger caliber revolver. If you want to train yourself on a different weapon, start investigating a semi-auto.
The Ruger LCR is a good light revolver if you are planning to use it for camping. Not sure how large of a weapon you are looking for, but if you are talking bears, forget the light aspect and get a bigger gun.
For home defense, a shotgun is the best way to go. If you have family members in the house or live in an apartment with thin walls, it is the only way to go.
Your first handgun must be a revolver.
If you have the funds for more than one gun, buy a .22 revolver and practice shooting with it responsibly. Google "the 10 rules of gun safety", learn them and take a gun safety course. Don't let your pride get in the way - you will be a more responsible gun owner for it.
After you've put yourself through the paces, and decide to get a different gun, consider a larger caliber revolver. If you want to train yourself on a different weapon, start investigating a semi-auto.
The Ruger LCR is a good light revolver if you are planning to use it for camping. Not sure how large of a weapon you are looking for, but if you are talking bears, forget the light aspect and get a bigger gun.
For home defense, a shotgun is the best way to go. If you have family members in the house or live in an apartment with thin walls, it is the only way to go.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:14 pm to Bill Parker?
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Ruger LCR
This would be a solid choice for a camping / bag gun IMO. Negative aspect would be the fixed sights which could be frustrating for a new shooter just starting out. This model is available with a laser from Ruger which could be beneficial in a home defense situation.
OP, just keep in mind that all guns, and handguns especially, involve some level of compromise.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:29 pm to weagle99
Any snub revolver is going to be very frustrating for a noob and most experienced people. They kick like a pissed plow mule, put flash-bangs to shame, and to top it off are tough to hit anything with. IMO a snubbie is an experts gun or a 3inches or less belly gun for most.
I like the 10mm suggestion alot if the op wants a semi auto. It would be my first choice if i got a plastic gun. With hot loads its close to .41mag power and more than adequate for self defense up to and including black bears.
I like the 10mm suggestion alot if the op wants a semi auto. It would be my first choice if i got a plastic gun. With hot loads its close to .41mag power and more than adequate for self defense up to and including black bears.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:39 pm to tiddlesmcdiddles
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couldn't go 4 rounds without a malfunction
What model Kimber did he have?
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:50 pm to NawlinsTigah270
Glock 10mm - 16rd capacity
.357mag
.44mag
.357mag
.44mag
Posted on 3/25/14 at 1:27 am to NawlinsTigah270
44 mag
Ain't sure about bringing down a bear but it'll put the lights out on a big gator
Ain't sure about bringing down a bear but it'll put the lights out on a big gator
Posted on 3/25/14 at 2:05 am to Nascar Fan
Buy an elcheapo beretta neos....shoot until comfy.
Then buy a 10mm with truncated rounds. Slay any bear that gets snarky.
Realistically, you need to shoot something with minimal recoil and progress into something larger you are comfortable with.
As for loose tolerancez on a 1911....the original design was loose and likely as reliable as any polymer gun. The quest for accuracy brought the issues if you ask me.
Then buy a 10mm with truncated rounds. Slay any bear that gets snarky.
Realistically, you need to shoot something with minimal recoil and progress into something larger you are comfortable with.
As for loose tolerancez on a 1911....the original design was loose and likely as reliable as any polymer gun. The quest for accuracy brought the issues if you ask me.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 6:41 am to NawlinsTigah270
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agree and back in Louisiana it wasn't a problem as almost everybody carries.
it isn't a problem but I think it becomes a nuisance carrying extra weight around for miles on end. Donts forget that you aren't walking around on flat ground. I know plenty of people with guns but they'd rather carry more whiskey than a handgun/ammo.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:58 am to NawlinsTigah270
Since your not a gun guy and probably don't want to spend a fortune get you an SCCY 9mm. This is my jeep gun, and for the price point a great shooting, very accurate gun. I use it quite a bit to plink at the range with as well.
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