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Gun control
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:04 pm
Well, it took a while, but Obama finally decided to get the ball rolling on his gun control platform. I feel he's just testing the waters or just trying to appease some of his gun grabbing buddys because his comments are more watered down then his prepresidency views.
What I'm saying is, if you aren't an NRA member, check into it.
What I'm saying is, if you aren't an NRA member, check into it.
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Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:05 pm to INFIDEL
What did he say?
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:12 pm to DrTyger
His ratings are starting to fall again. While we have all hell breaking lose with Japan, price of oil, middle east turmoil, the budget- he plays golf. The last thing he needs to do is take on the NRA. What a stupid pos.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:19 pm to mikeytig
Politics. He has to say he tried. High capacity mags I see going away. Better buy them now if so inclined. But that is the Arizona frickstick's fault and not Obama.
Reactionary move that will not fix anything but makes me no difference.
Reactionary move that will not fix anything but makes me no difference.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:23 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Even if they get something through Congress (which in itself will take forever) we should have enough time to get whatever we want before it actually goes into effect. I don't see anything changing to be honest, the NRA is legit as shite and has our back brosephs. 
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:25 pm to whitetailed
Can someone please tell me what the dipshit said about violating my 2nd amendment right?
I can't find anything on google.
I can't find anything on google.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:29 pm to DrTyger
I haven't heard anything either and I probably would have.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:31 pm to whitetailed
quote:
WASHINGTON (CNN) - More than two months after the fatal shootings in Tucson, AZ, President Barack Obama staked out his position in the gun control debate.
In an op-ed published Sunday in The Arizona Daily Star, the president acknowledged the role of guns in American society but warned of their dangers.
Obama outlined three steps to prevent those "irresponsible, law-breaking few" from "getting their hands on a gun in the first place."
The president said America should enforce laws already on the books, reward states that provide the best data and make background checks faster.
Basically he did a lot of talking without actually saying anything.
Typical....
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:34 pm to DrTyger
It wasn't a whole lot, actually. His comment was about getting tougher on keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people, but to my knowledge it's his first comment concerning gun control since he's been in office.
I"ll try to find a link.
I"ll try to find a link.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:39 pm to DrTyger
Doesn't sound like anything is changing. Just more enforcement of laws that are already in place. I love guns as much as anyone and have never had any problems getting one. I don't mind the boring arse paperwork every time or the background check because it does deter some people from getting firearms who don't need them.
I wouldn't like anymore laws added that would potentially place a hold on guns or take longer etc. but as long as it doesn't stop law abiding citizens (all OBers) from purchasing guns then I would say I am ok with it (under certain circumstances). Some people have no business owning a firearm but are still able to get one. I.E. the kid who shot up Virginia Tech even though he had failed a physcological (sp?) exam....etc etc.
I wouldn't like anymore laws added that would potentially place a hold on guns or take longer etc. but as long as it doesn't stop law abiding citizens (all OBers) from purchasing guns then I would say I am ok with it (under certain circumstances). Some people have no business owning a firearm but are still able to get one. I.E. the kid who shot up Virginia Tech even though he had failed a physcological (sp?) exam....etc etc.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:42 pm to INFIDEL
quote:
His comment was about getting tougher on keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people
I hate when people act like this can be done by creating laws for the LEGAL purchase of weapons. All that does is make it harder for people who should be able to get them and make it easier for criminals to get them illegally. I don't remember the numbers but I think Australia enforced some crazy as gun law one time and armed robberies increased 10 fold because the criminals knew no one had anything to defend themselves with.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:43 pm to whitetailed
mash here
At first glance you might say, "well hell, that makes since". But after you really think about what he's saying needs to be done........
Just how invasive is that background check going to be? What "loophole" is he talking about? What guns handed down through families? Would you need to go have your psych eval done before you go register paw paw's old 12ga? And I know we don't have to register guns.......yet. To close the loophole, you would have to.
At first glance you might say, "well hell, that makes since". But after you really think about what he's saying needs to be done........
Just how invasive is that background check going to be? What "loophole" is he talking about? What guns handed down through families? Would you need to go have your psych eval done before you go register paw paw's old 12ga? And I know we don't have to register guns.......yet. To close the loophole, you would have to.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:48 pm to whitetailed
quote:
Some people have no business owning a firearm but are still able to get one. I.E. the kid who shot up Virginia Tech even though he had failed a physcological (sp?) exam....etc etc.
Which is why limiting the ability of law abiding citizens to purchase, possess, and carry them is asinine. Generally speaking, the people committing crimes don't really give a damn about gun laws.
I'm not very worried about Barry though. If he was going to force through a gun bill had his chance when the Dems controlled Congress. I just can't see the House passing anything now.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:48 pm to INFIDEL
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failed a physcological (sp?) exam....etc etc.
So, to actually be able to use this info in a background check there would have to be a national database available to the FBI with everyone's psych evals in it, right? First, that's would be an invasion of privacy/HIPAA violation and second, It hasn't been achieved at any level of healthcare, how in the hell would they pull it off for gun control? So what? Every time you buy a gun you have to go get a psych eval? And by who?
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:50 pm to INFIDEL
Interesting. At least he acknowledges that there are responsible gun owners with common sense. You would be surprised how many left wing nut bags are for not one single person (and that would be legally) owning a gun.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:50 pm to INFIDEL
I do think that he is going to avoid any big gun grabs for the time being. He's already hurting in the polls and gun control has been proven to be an unpopular idea with the american public.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:52 pm to INFIDEL
quote:
At least he acknowledges that there are responsible gun owners with common sense
THis was NOT his stance before he entered the White House.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:52 pm to INFIDEL
The point with that is that the VT shooter should never have been allowed to purchase those guns. They fact that he had been institutionalized within 5 or 10 years should have been a hold on the background check. Someone screwed up on that day, and no one will admit to it.
You don't need to have a psych eval to buy a gun, but I agree that being institutionalized or having a diagnosed condition that could cause a psychiatric break (schizo, etc.) should at least cause a hold and further evals before a sale could be completed.
You don't need to have a psych eval to buy a gun, but I agree that being institutionalized or having a diagnosed condition that could cause a psychiatric break (schizo, etc.) should at least cause a hold and further evals before a sale could be completed.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:52 pm to INFIDEL
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Every time you buy a gun you have to go get a psych eval?
No I am not saying that at all. But if you have been admitted to a mental institution on suicide watch (as he had been) and failed a mental health test (as he had) don't you think that should be documented somewhere?
I mean if there is evidence already that shows that you are a lunatic then IMO it should be documented and I don't see anything wrong with that. But frick no, I would not be up for taking any tests and did not mean that at all.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 10:53 pm to DrTyger
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DrTyger
Beat me to it but yes thank you. That's what I was saying.
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