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Posted on 10/29/13 at 1:55 pm to tigerfan5959
About a year and a half ago I started thinking the same thing.
Bought a registered beagle for 100 bucks. Great dog. Tracked a doe late last year and found a 6 point a little under a mile my uncle wounded with his bow.
My brother also bought a German Shepard a week before I bought my beagle. The dog had an incredible amount of built up energy and became increasingly aggressive. If you plan on having a dog strictly for trailing purposes, then I would advise against a German Shepard. If your dead set with the German Shepard though, then go with a female.
As far as training. I shot a doe and saw her fall about 80 yards later, I took Cy out there and he smelt his way to the deer, when he got there I praised him and gave him some turkey. I cut off one of the deer ears and that was hands down his favorite toy. Since then he's 2 for 2.
ETA: Beagles are incredible with kids. Also I would go with the bloodhound over red bone.
Bought a registered beagle for 100 bucks. Great dog. Tracked a doe late last year and found a 6 point a little under a mile my uncle wounded with his bow.
My brother also bought a German Shepard a week before I bought my beagle. The dog had an incredible amount of built up energy and became increasingly aggressive. If you plan on having a dog strictly for trailing purposes, then I would advise against a German Shepard. If your dead set with the German Shepard though, then go with a female.
As far as training. I shot a doe and saw her fall about 80 yards later, I took Cy out there and he smelt his way to the deer, when he got there I praised him and gave him some turkey. I cut off one of the deer ears and that was hands down his favorite toy. Since then he's 2 for 2.
ETA: Beagles are incredible with kids. Also I would go with the bloodhound over red bone.
This post was edited on 10/29/13 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 10/29/13 at 1:56 pm to tigerfan5959
If you actually want to put your hands on the deer a lab is wayyyyy better. Hounds usually have little intrest in something they cant chase.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 1:56 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
What's your take on a Shepherd trailing a wounded deer?
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:00 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:bullshite. I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I know dogs.
If you actually want to put your hands on the deer a lab is wayyyyy better. Hounds usually have little intrest in something they cant chase.
I've had 2 labs, you talk about a ball of energy. I've had tons of beagles, and one bloodhound. We've (my grandfather and I) tried making all of the breeds into blood dogs.
Without a doubt the best I've ever seen was a female beagle named Missy.
Also what the hell do you think is gonna happen with a lab if they spook up a wounded deer... they will chase.
Also we keep our dogs on a 3-6 ft lead. You will have to go through thickets some times, but you're likely gonna have to go through to retrieve the deer anyways.
This post was edited on 10/29/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:03 pm to tigerfan5959
Itd probably work, but if i was on a mission for a serious tracking dog id get a lab/hound cross. Ive never seen a hound that was a very good tracking dog, and I own a bloodhound that i tried to train. They just have too much intrest in running something. bloodtrails bore them. A GS would definitely do it. It just wouldnt be my main choice.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:03 pm to tigerfan5959
quote:Also if you're using a blood trailing dog, then the trail has likely went cold for you or they trail has led on for a long time.
tigerfan5959
You don't use a dog at least an hour after you shot the deer. If it's still alive an hour after the shot, you're not finding that deer. Therefore the whole "A hound will chase a deer, but a lab won't" argument is mute.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:06 pm to Tigah32
A lab will stay on a track even if it jumps another deer. At most it will run it out of sight and come back. 9/10 hounds revert to deer hounds if they jump a deer.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:08 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Honestly I couldn't argue with you here, because we always keep our dogs on a lead.
A lab will stay on a track even if it jumps another deer. At most it will run it out of sight and come back. 9/10 hounds revert to deer hounds if they jump a deer.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:14 pm to Tigah32
Jumping the crippled deer isnt an issue, its the other 5 million deer that will mess you up. Your chances of getting a good tracking dog are better with almost anything other than a hound.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:18 pm to Tigah32
Can you give me a good person to train a dog to track? I think I am going to go with a lab. Someone on here has to know someone who trains dogs to track wounded deer.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:20 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I have a Jack Russel Terrier that is train for blood trailing. Jay Dufour in Pine Grove trains blood trailers and retievers.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:22 pm to tigerfan5959
Its very easy to do. Freeze deer blood and make trails with a prize at the end of it. Labs pick up on it very easily usually. I dont know of a 'school.' Might be a good business venture...
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:53 pm to TSam
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I have a Jack Russel Terrier that is train for blood trailing.
I was just going to post that a Jack Russell will usually make a good blood dog. Plus, they all believe they weigh 900 lbs so it will attempt to maul any deer it finds.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:57 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Wow...just wow.
Your chances of getting a good tracking dog are better with almost anything other than a hound.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:14 pm to TigerDeacon
Like I said earlier, pretty much any dog can smell it. The main things you need are handling and a desire to do a job, and some bloodlust is a nice bonus. My neighbor has some kind of mutt ankle biter thing that does a good job.
Labs have pretty much everything going for them with tracking. They have very good noses, a strong drive to work, very good handling, and as a bonus they're usually pretty big and willing to fight. They're nice and easy to find when they're growling/barking rather than just moping around after they find the deer. It usually only takes one or two trails in the yard for a lab to figure out what the game is, and when you get them in a routine they know what the difference is between looking for a crippled deer and just playing in the woods.
I've fooled with hounds my whole life and just don't see any advantage to using one for tracking. Sure, they have incredible noses and don't care about anything other than work, but they almost all have their own definition of work.
Labs have pretty much everything going for them with tracking. They have very good noses, a strong drive to work, very good handling, and as a bonus they're usually pretty big and willing to fight. They're nice and easy to find when they're growling/barking rather than just moping around after they find the deer. It usually only takes one or two trails in the yard for a lab to figure out what the game is, and when you get them in a routine they know what the difference is between looking for a crippled deer and just playing in the woods.
I've fooled with hounds my whole life and just don't see any advantage to using one for tracking. Sure, they have incredible noses and don't care about anything other than work, but they almost all have their own definition of work.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:59 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I think a dead deer has a better nose than my lab.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 6:31 pm to TigerDeacon
Not an expert but best tracking dog I've ever seen was a black mouth cur.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 6:39 pm to tigerfan5959
There's a reason police use shepherds and labs for drug dogs.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 7:36 pm to tigerfan5959
I have a 5 year old GSD and part of Schutzhund training is tracking, there's three parts- Obedience, tracking and protection. They track very well and I have seen very few that tire easily. With that being said, they do not handle heat well. Early September hunts in the swamp area of LS could be tough. Using a GSD later in the season when it is cool to cold would work well. Always wondered about using GSD's to hunt. Saw an article of an elk hunter that only used GSD's for tracking. Good luck. Let me know how it goes.
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