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re: Generators for the impending storm

Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:47 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:47 am to
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Does it have a 220 plug? There are some really sweet cords available that have a 220 male plug on one side and 4 110v plugs on the other. They're really handy for letting you have one spot in the house to plug everything in, rather than stretching a bunch of extension cords all over the house/yard.
That is what I was talking about. I want one. None were available locally back when I needed it.

If that is plugged in, do the other outlets no longer work or is it just a bad idea to use them?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:49 am to
Usually you can use all of the plugs on the generator simultaneously (110s and 220s) as long as you don't overload any of them. They should all have individual fuses or breakers to keep you from fricking anything up.
Posted by GeauxTime9
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:52 am to
Do newer homes come with a transfer switch installed? Or is this generally something you have to install or hire someone to install?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:53 am to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:59 am to
I can't imagine why a house would have one installed if it wasn't initially built with a standby generator.

You would have to have one installed at the same time you have the generator installed if you want it. Look in your breaker panel and it should be very obvious if it does already have a transfer switch for secondary power input. It'll be a piece of plate over the main breaker that prevents you from having both the power line breaker and generator input breaker closed at the same time.
Posted by GeauxTime9
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:03 am to
Yeah, im like 95% positive i don't have one. That is the only way to power your house correct?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:07 am to
Posted by jdavid1
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:09 am to
How hard is to install a transfer switch?
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:10 am to
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The best way is have a generator with a 220 plug on it so you can power both sides of your breaker panel.


Just make sure you can isolate on the primary side. You would hate to zap a lineman trying to restore power.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:14 am to
No. There's lots of ways you can do it. A transfer switch makes it idiot proof.

Basically, it prevents you from either energizing the power line coming into your house with the generator and also prevents you from energizing the generator with main power into the house
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:23 am to
I just know nothing about electricity and to be honest it scares me. I don't like messing with anything electrical . I guess my best option is just run the 220 cord and plug in what i need to plug in. I myself won't be able to set it up where i can still turn the lights on and off.
Posted by Cracker
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:23 am to
Pull the main!!!

Then you can plug into the dryer outlet 220 and light up the house but use a 8-10 ga extension keep the generator outside
If you don't disconnect from the grid you can kill a line man if you can't pull the main breaker go pull the meter off completely
I don't recommend any of this unless you understand what you are doing
Posted by msu202020
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:33 am to
quote:

I just know nothing about electricity and to be honest it scares me. I don't like messing with anything electrical . I guess my best option is just run the 220 cord and plug in what i need to plug in. I myself won't be able to set it up where i can still turn the lights on and off.



What size is your generator? I can give you a pretty inexpensive way to do this legally and per the NEC.
Posted by kennahbra
Da Bayou
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:52 am to
that 2k honda generator is for things like tailgating and bowfishing. that wouldnt run too many things in your house.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:06 am to
The best thing I ever did was put a transfer switch in my house when I built it. I have yet to use it but when I do I'll be glad I had it.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:31 pm to
Spit it out anyway. I'd like to know if it's what I've been doing
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:39 pm to
I just use the breaker box and shut off the main. Probably not legal
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:44 pm to
I was supposed to hook myself up with a nice way to power my house this summer, but I've been working my arse completely off. Hopefully I get this weekend off, but I won't find out til 5.

My breaker panel has empty spots, so I was going to put in a 60 amp two pole breaker and run some # 6 to a heavy duty plug outside. It would be as simple as turn off the main, turn on the 60 amp emergency breaker, plug in generator and start it up.

Probably overkill, but o well.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:14 pm to

One of the best things I ever did was to install a new outside breaker box with a built in transfer switch. I then added a separate electrical box with a water proof door that accepts the 220 V cord plug from my generator and powers up the house. I have used this set up several times since Katrina. Have to go outside, flip the switch, crank the generator, plug it in, and we're set. 5 KW runs everything but the water heater and home A/C. Honda is your friend.

Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:22 pm to
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Spit it out anyway. I'd like to know if it's what I've been doing


If you are completely against installing a transfer switch (the most ideal solution) then I would do the following:

First you would need to make sure that your service entrance load center (panel on outside of the house) is equipped with a main circuit breaker. I would add a branch circuit Generator Breaker (240V, 2-pole, amperage sized to protect cabling). The Generator breaker and the Main breaker has to be interlocked with an approved UL Listed device. I would then install appropriately sized wiring and conduit to an outdoor power inlet box (NEMA configuration and size based on generator size).

Everything should be sized based off what you want to provide power for and the generator size.

All of this should be installed by someone competent.
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