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Fourchon Beach question

Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted by GRIZZ
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:01 pm
Is the beach open? Ive heard different reports. Thanks.
Posted by maisweh
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:04 pm to
no
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:05 pm to
I believe the correct answer is yes and no. No, meaning you can not simply drive up to it as you once could years ago. Yes, meaning you can access it from the Gulf side via boat. If this is wrong someone can correct me.
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:08 pm to
A certain someone thinks they own that beach...
Posted by Mung
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:10 pm to
the beach is public up to the land covered by the highest tide in the winter. so you can always access it by boat. Whether the landowner btw you and the nearest road will allow you to cross his property to get to the beach is another story. a-holes ruin it for everyone.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:11 pm to
Not from land. You can access the beach from the water as high as the mean winter high tide mark. Above that is owned by various landowners

It's stupid the way it's set up really. Based on old laws from the Mediterranean Sea area of the world.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

the beach is public up to the land covered by the highest tide in the winter. so you can always access it by boat. Whether the landowner btw you and the nearest road will allow you to cross his property to get to the beach is another story. a-holes ruin it for everyone.


Have you been out there lately? At one point the "owners" drove pylons across the beach to block off access. You can still see them on Google Earth.
Posted by eng08
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:41 pm to
Would that be Wisner Foundation?
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:44 pm to
The pilings were installed by the Caillouet land company. When you hit Elmers island, if you turn right you will eventually run into them. They blocked off that beach. Zero access for the public. Not even from the gulf.
Posted by Mung
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 4:04 pm to
pilings were installed above beach line, on private property. Calloulette(however you spell it) got tired of people trashing the place, then claiming a public servitude of access.

you can still access the beach, just not thru their property. Civil Code article 451 defines "seashore" and 452 makes it public.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 4:44 pm to
Yes
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

alloulette(however you spell it) got tired of people trashing the place, then claiming a public servitude of access


you mean people down there are trashy? Go figure.
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

pilings were installed above beach line, on private property. Calloulette(however you spell it) got tired of people trashing the place, then claiming a public servitude of access.

you can still access the beach, just not thru their property. Civil Code article 451 defines "seashore" and 452 makes it public.


Are 100% sure about this? This is a pretty well documented shite show. Those pilings have been the subject of a lot of debate. This is the first time I have ever heard someone suggest those pilings were on public property.

The Caillouet family put these pilings there specically to block access. Charlotte Randolph had the ones on the west side the removed.

The ones on the east side are still there.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Mung
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 5:09 pm to
is anything stopping you from launching at Bridgeside Marina and boating over there? Landing on the beach? Fishing?

Just b/c you can't drive your truck on the beach doesn't mean you have no access to public property. Not many spots where you can drive your car to the Miss River either, and that is state owned.

Who is Charlotte Randolph?
Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Just b/c you can't drive your truck on the beach doesn't mean you have no access to public property. Not many spots where you can drive your car to the Miss River either, and that is state owned.


This makes no sense whatsoever. This debate has been going on for 20 years, if you don't believe me go ahead and try and land you boat on the beach.

quote:

Who is Charlotte Randolph?


Lafourche Parish President. She is the one who got the pilings removed. Again, the Caillouet land co drove pilings in the sand to stop vehicle access on what you are arguing is a public beach...
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 5:29 pm to
Well, Caillouett has more stroke than the Elmer Family. Jindal just nationalized their property to allow public access to the public beach. Beats $7 million.

Anyhow, just boat to the beach and see if the sheriff gives you a ticket. For $5K Motorboat and I will rep you in the criminal case for trespassing. The seashore is public. If we have to hire an expert on locating the winter tide line, that'll be extra.
Posted by jimbeam
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Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 5:35 pm to
I really don't see what the issue is.
Posted by farad
St George
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 5:44 pm to
...used to be fun to go out there and camp out...flounder at night ...catch trout surf fishing...drag up wood for bon fires on the beach... cooking breakfast of fresh speckled trout and drinking coffee early in the morning...that beach went out hundreds of yards from where you first hit it from the road to it...

I always took out more trash than I made...unfortunately...very few others did...

it really is sad but I understand why...
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 5:45 pm to
Fourchon beach is still used by people I can assure you of that. Theres trash out the wazoo. And it's not all brought by the tide
Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

I really don't see what the issue is.


The issue is the land owners shut off the public from accessing public property. Then they drove pilings in the sand to cut the public off other access points that were not under their control.

The beach, as far as I know, is currently closed to vehicle and pedestrian traffic.

The only way for anything to change around there is for people to stop spending money in Lafourche parish. Without tourism, they don't have much.
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