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re: Food Plot Woes
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:15 am to The Levee
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:15 am to The Levee
quote:
It’s not gonna rain till opening day gun season in MS. I’ve been saying it for weeks…..months maybe.
Gun season opens 11/18.... if the long-term forecasts hold (they never do!) you deserve the Nostradamus award for this board.
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Posted on 10/30/23 at 8:12 am to Red Stick Rambler
It’s not that hard to predict. I’m going no-till and spent a bunch of money. Therefore it will not rain and have massive crop failure. Everyone who starts something new is challenged at the beginning.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 8:34 am to Red Stick Rambler
I thought I was smart to grab all that seed before the rush. I'm starting to think I'd waste it to plant a few weeks from now. The chances of a frost hammering it are high. I'm sure those who did plant are sweating the frost coming through today and tomorrow. Plots are likely already stressed by the conditions. I need to use no-till on half my plots due to access and if I threw my seed just to get it over with, the hogs and turkeys would shop vac it up quickly. shite sandwich. I may need to find some refrigerated space to hold the seed until next year.
ETA:
We've been using no-till for four years and had some great plots (and hopefully improving the soil quality). The rub is it is imperative that you get the seed out right before a substantial rain. Any thatch layer you create from previous growth helps as well. Unfortunately, this year we didn't have a thatch layer due to the drought and we have no sign of a substantial rain in sight. The further into fall we get the more likely it is that planting will fail. We'll be lamenting the drought of 2023 at the deer camp for years.
ETA:
We've been using no-till for four years and had some great plots (and hopefully improving the soil quality). The rub is it is imperative that you get the seed out right before a substantial rain. Any thatch layer you create from previous growth helps as well. Unfortunately, this year we didn't have a thatch layer due to the drought and we have no sign of a substantial rain in sight. The further into fall we get the more likely it is that planting will fail. We'll be lamenting the drought of 2023 at the deer camp for years.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 8:40 am
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:16 pm to EarlyBird
I haven’t even thought about the frost. We’re screwed
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:23 pm to lsushelly
quote:
I haven’t even thought about the frost. We’re screwed
The Lord will Provide!
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:43 pm to EarlyBird
quote:
I thought I was smart to grab all that seed before the rush. I'm starting to think I'd waste it to plant a few weeks from now. The chances of a frost hammering it are high.
quote:
I may need to find some refrigerated space to hold the seed until next year.
What are you planting?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:03 pm to lsushelly
I've got to get something growing or the deer are going to bankrupt me on corn. I've never seen more deer eating at a feeder. I check my cameras when I go to bed and I've seen 8 deer surrounding a free choice feeder at a time.
I only run 4 feeders and have put more than a ton of corn through them in the past three weeks. A pallet would typically last me a large portion of the season.
It's not hogs and my feeders are pretty hog proof and I haven't seen any on camera in quite awhile. We will see how the feeders stand up to the bears when they find them.
I only run 4 feeders and have put more than a ton of corn through them in the past three weeks. A pallet would typically last me a large portion of the season.
It's not hogs and my feeders are pretty hog proof and I haven't seen any on camera in quite awhile. We will see how the feeders stand up to the bears when they find them.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:11 pm to TigerDeacon
Like previously stated, I have some green coming up due to only the dew. I have pictures of deer eating in the plot. Hoping that the frost doesn't do too much damage.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:21 pm to The Levee
quote:
The Lord will Provide!
And just like that! It’s raining!
Now, it could spell doom as I drilled my seed and it might not rain for another month
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:48 pm to Red Stick Rambler
Oats
Elbon Rye
Durana Clover
Crimson Clover
Frosty Berseem Clover
Chickory
Rape
I went with smaller seeds (other than the cereal grains) to reduce loss to hogs and birds and I'm leaning more heavily on legumes, so I don't require nitrogen in December. The perennial seeds (Durana and Chicory) will be for the spring and summer. I've thrown turnips for several years but the deer don't seem to hit it. Trying rape instead this year.
ETA:
frick it. I'm getting it out this weekend. It's gotta rain sometime in the next 10 to 15 days. It's been plenty humid in the mornings.
Elbon Rye
Durana Clover
Crimson Clover
Frosty Berseem Clover
Chickory
Rape
I went with smaller seeds (other than the cereal grains) to reduce loss to hogs and birds and I'm leaning more heavily on legumes, so I don't require nitrogen in December. The perennial seeds (Durana and Chicory) will be for the spring and summer. I've thrown turnips for several years but the deer don't seem to hit it. Trying rape instead this year.
ETA:
frick it. I'm getting it out this weekend. It's gotta rain sometime in the next 10 to 15 days. It's been plenty humid in the mornings.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:12 pm to EarlyBird
quote:
Oats
Elbon Rye
Durana Clover
Crimson Clover
Frosty Berseem Clover
Chickory
Rape
Not too different from my mix (elbon rye, crimson/arrowleaf/medium red clover, chicory and daikon radishes). I think you posted that you're in my area (I'm in Wilkinson Co., MS) and other than the oats you should be okay planting in the next couple of weeks.
quote:
frick it. I'm getting it out this weekend. It's gotta rain sometime in the next 10 to 15 days. It's been plenty humid in the mornings.
I'm sort of leaning that way myself!
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 10/31/23 at 6:20 am to Red Stick Rambler
Latest Rain accumulation model through Nov 16. It may not rain till 2024
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 6:21 am
Posted on 10/31/23 at 7:28 am to LSUTiger23
I think McComb actually got some rain last night! Now hopefully it doesn’t frost/freeze too bad.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:14 am to LSUTiger23
To be fair, that model could change over night. The same way it’s been wrong all summer
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:50 am to The Levee
With seed already in the ground, how much rain is needed to germinate? It appears we got less than 1/10" in SW MS
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:45 am to Nannyslayer
quote:
Nannyslayer
Just noticed your user name.
We got .25 in West Monroe. Looks like less in Jackson and Winn parishes.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:18 am to Nannyslayer
quote:im no expert but my guess is more than that
It appears we got less than 1/10" in SW MS
My cowpeas that got planted and did germinate have been eaten down to the ground by the deer. I went from having a somewhat green plot to brown in about 3 days
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:50 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
You'll likely get partial/some germination for the seed toward the top. The humidity levels have been climbing it seems even though it hasn't resulted in rain, but I'm NOT gonna spend Thanksgiving planting plots so I'll roll the dice. It's going out this weekend.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:14 pm to EarlyBird
quote:
but I'm NOT gonna spend Thanksgiving planting plots so I'll roll the dice. It's going out this weekend.
Welcome to the party, Pal.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:48 pm to The Levee
While this year is certainly a new level of fricked up, I'm trying to remember when plot season didn't come with some level of stress. I can only imagine what farmers go through (if they're not subsidized).
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