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Fascinating Duck Study on Pressure

Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:06 pm
Posted by DanielBooned
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2023
25 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:06 pm
I thought this was very well done and informative. I have my own suspicions for why the hunting has gotten worse, but I think this data from a very sharp biologist was insightful.
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Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90653 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:30 pm to
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why the hunting has gotten worse,


Nets and pumps to keep fields thawed keeping them up north
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:18 pm to
Thousands of acres of unplanted corn flooded by the govt and not hunted
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:25 pm to
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Thousands of acres of unplanted corn flooded by the govt and not hunted


Where? I hear this a lot, but have never seen the proof
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 6:26 pm
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1953 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:37 pm to
We had a biologist tell us that if you want to make a successful hunting place, you build it and plant it, and once the ducks start using it, DONT HUNT IT FOR AT LEAST 3 YEARS. During those 3 years, the ducks will imprint on it as a “safe place” and will even pass that on to their babies.
Posted by AP83
Cottonport
Member since Sep 2009
2715 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 6:40 pm to
If it’s not planted how do you know it’s
Corn?
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:09 pm to
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Where? I hear this a lot, but have never seen the proof


That’s bc there isn’t any.


Wildlife refugesss that prohibits duck hunting is allthere is
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8161 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:20 pm to
Zero grade farming, 100% grain harvest, burning off rice fields, etc.

Farming practices are getting so damn efficient that it’s changing a big chunk of what led to good/easy duck hunting in the first place.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:27 pm to
Morgan Brake NWR in Mississippi is one.

There is also a refuge in Tennessee that puts a live web cam.

North farm at sherburne

It's everywhere and concentrates ducks
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19487 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:38 pm to
The Wildlife and Fisheries theory of them planting hundreds of thousands of acres of ground and not allowing anyone to hunt never made sense to me.

While I’m unsure what the percentage is, I would assume much of their revenue comes from the sale of hunting licenses.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5163 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:40 pm to
BS, there was a refuge of 700 that held birds for years. Once the contract was up the owners leased it, it didn’t take 3 years to drive them off of that property.
Imprinting is a hundred year process not 3 or even 25.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:29 pm to
You are assuming the leadership has a mindset of hunter experience over game conservation.

These folks believe they are fighting the greater good and hunter experience is way way down the list of what they care for.

Another one planted crop flooded is near rolling fork

Morgan Brake I've seen wintering waterfowl just sit on it. Thousands of ducks no longer spread out
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13905 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:52 pm to
Used to have cooperative farming agreements on some NWRs, where farmer left a portion of the crop to be flooded.
Posted by inotsure
Member since Apr 2021
90 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 4:53 am to
Most of the flooded ag crop refuges run out of food before the end of the season. The birds occupying them during the day are there to avoid pressure and feed else at night.
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2669 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 6:28 am to
Squaw creek? After living in KC and seeing all of the DU projects that put thousands of gallons of water where water is not naturally held keeps the birds from having to push south where the water is.

It’s simple cause and effect
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
394 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 7:23 am to
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Thousands of acres of unplanted corn flooded by the govt and not hunted


People actually believe this
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13905 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:31 am to
It doesn’t have to be flooded corn, just a few hundred acres of flooded un-hunted moist soil areas.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81646 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:49 am to
There's an unhunted mud field across the road from our rice fields. It might have 3" of water in it. It is often loaded with ducks as we drive home.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3704 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:14 am to
I’m not really a duck hunter but I went to Catahoula lake a few times with a friend.
I was fascinated by the number of ducks in the refuge area,there must have been thousands,I drove my boat close to the boundary markers and they just swam away.

Early in the morning you could see them flying over the lake coming back from their nightly feeding excursion.They would be about a mile high and when they got over the refuge area they would spiral down and land in amongst the hordes of ducks already there.
I didn’t realize ducks were that smart until I saw that.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81646 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:34 am to
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They would be about a mile high and when they got over the refuge area they would spiral down and land in amongst the hordes of ducks already there.
I used to love watching that.
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