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Posted on 12/3/23 at 6:16 am to
Posted by 257WBY
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 6:16 am to
I’ve never been, so speaking out of ignorance. How does one get used to shooting a double rifle so that muscle memory is there when facing dangerous game? I think I’d rather have a rifle in the same action that I normally hunt with so that I’m not thinking too much at crunch time.
Posted by CalcasieuTiger
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:07 am to
Thanks for the referral.
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:12 am to
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Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:31 am to
Dallas Safari Club meeting is a great place to get your hands on some.

Like anything else, you have some decisions to make in terms of caliber and manufacturer.

Without knowing what species you are targeting, I will say the 470 Nitro Express and 450/400 Nitro Express are quite popular. The 450/400 being less abusive and great for anything up to and including Cape Buffalo. If going after pachyderms or hippo the 470 would likely get the nod. Finding ammo for them is easier too.

Used guns can be had, just remember that odds are the gun was made bespoke for somebody else. Meaning the LOP, palm swell, etc may not be exactly suited to you.

The other trouble is that many of these used guns are older turn of the century pieces that were made to shoot obsolete black powder cartridges. You likely can’t find ammo for them.

If looking at budget friendly options consider Chapuis, Verney-Carron, Kreighoff.

Heym is who I chose; a German manufacturer who’s US distributor is based out of Dallas. Sort of falls between the entry level and luxury brands. A well dressed 89B is gonna set you back $40,000+. Will say that customer service and communication leaves a lot to be desired.

From there you get into the famed London gun makers. Rigby, Purdey, Holland & Holland.

Avoid Sabbati (especially those sold by Cabela’s 10 or so years back.) and also avoid Searcy. Both have terrible reputations for quality and accuracy issues.

With a full year of leadtime, you could probably have a bespoke gun built.

You also need to start looking into travel with firearms in the countries you are planning to visit. Not something we face here in the States; however, transporting firearms in parts of Europe, Africa, or Asia can be very problematic. In fact, many airlines do not allow for them to be transported at all. That flight on Emirates may seem like a great deal until you find out that they will not allow you to bring a firearm.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted by CalcasieuTiger
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 6:12 pm to
Great insight and thank you.

Have you had any experience moving a gun from one country to another? For example: flying into Nairobi, Kenya and then flying to Tanzania for the hunt?
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:01 pm to
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flying into Nairobi, Kenya and then flying to Tanzania for the hunt?


You have two separate forces at play.

First; is the countries regulations. Some countries have very strict firearm controls.

Second; is the airline itself. Many have caved into anti-trophy hunting groups and banned firearms and trophies from their flights.

Kenya implemented a hunting ban decades ago. You’ll definitely want to look into restrictions there.

Tanzania is widely considered the single greatest place left to hunt in Africa. You can definitely get guns in. It’s on my short list of dream hunts.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:01 pm to
Double post..
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 7:02 pm
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8969 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:44 pm to
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I’ve never been, so speaking out of ignorance. How does one get used to shooting a double rifle so that muscle memory is there when facing dangerous game? I think I’d rather have a rifle in the same action that I normally hunt with so that I’m not thinking too much at crunch time.


Lots of practice and it’s immediately on your mind when preparing for the first shot. Shoot; then move the finger to the second trigger. Almost in one continuous motion.

It would actually make more
sense to use a single trigger. Similar to what you find on most over under shotguns. It’s not like there’s a difference in chokes like on a shotgun.

When I asked about this with a gunmaker I learned that the power of the recoil with dangerous game cartridges is so jarring that with a single trigger mechanism doubling (firing both barrels at once or close to it) was a problem. So two entirely separate trigger mechanisms are needed. That’s why you don’t see single triggers on big bore double rifles.

It’s also why they cost so much. They are truly a work of art. It takes a master gunsmith to make one that regulates properly and functions flawlessly.

This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 8:47 pm
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