re: Colorado vote to reintroduce wolves results map

Welp, it’s 10:30am and AlxTgr already has me lost

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I'll ask you this, would you feel safe allowing my 10 year old daughter to walk our dog in an area with a wolf pack?

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Exactly. People who think wolves aren’t a threat to people are fools. Ask that lady teacher who went for a jog in Alaska a few years back. Oh that’s right, she’s not around to answer.

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People who think wolves aren’t a threat to people are fools. Ask that lady teacher who went for a jog in Alaska a few years back. Oh that’s right, she’s not around to answer.

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You mean the one from almost 14 years ago and the only fatal wolf attack ever in Alaska?

The only other fatal wolf attack in the US other than that in the last 80 years was in Minnesota in 1989. That's a real scary story that would have me terrified to ever go outside in Colorado ever again. This one was THE FAMILY PET THEY KEPT IN THEIR BACKYARD and the wolf knocked the person to the ground and they died from liver damage from the slam.

Yes, people all over should be shaking in their boots, the threat to humans is real

Wolves aren't a threat to people worth talking about.

Livestock, deer and elk are what is in trouble.

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Google the Kirov wolf attacks. Sure it’s from the 40s-50s if that makes you feel better.

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I'm not meaning this is any condescending way or anything because I'm enjoying the conversation, but are you serious? Why in the world would someone in the current day US/Colorado ever think this is even remotely the same type of situation? Disregarding the fact that the worst experience regarding wolves with humans ever was EIGHTY years ago, the place was overrun with wolves. They were in every area there and they were in the forests, streets, and city parks. Of course there were deaths What is going on here is so far from that it's not even worth mentioning.

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My only point is that people who think wolves are no threat to humans are wrong. I’d feel better about the whole thing if managed hunting is allowed so as to instill the fear of humans.

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My point is that in the past 100 years there is nothing to show that people in the US should have any legitimate fear of wolves. Seriously, it isn't worth worrying about. You, or anyone you know, will ever be attacked by a wolf. That is a fact. The handful of wolves being released isn't going to change that.

If you have livestock, or are a hunter and think that it is going to harm the elk population, that is a different story. I haven't done enough research to even form an opinion either way on that, I'm not going to automatically assume it's good or bad.

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1. Not sure I'd feel safe letting my 10 year old daughter walk our dog by herself in most residential neighborhoods. 2. In the area wolves are being re-introduced I'd 100% be much more worried about a bear or even a mountain lion attacking her than I would a wolf. That is much more common. And you're not going to let them do that in those areas in the first place honestly.

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I agree that so far wolves haven’t been a threat. I just don’t know how anyone can explain it other than a statistical anomaly time wise. You can’t tell me a pack of wolves is more scared of people then a mountain lion or black bear, and those attacks happen. They are rare also, for sure.

Here’s a quote from coyotes, i just don’t believe wolves are that much different then coyotes.

“We have documented 367 attacks on humans by coyotes from 1977 through 2015, of which 165 occurred in California. Of 348 total victims of coyote attack, 209 (60%) were adults, and 139 (40%) were children (age =10 years). Children (especially toddlers) are at greater risk of serious injury.”

although I have no direct knowledge nor training to say definitely, observation of how the natural world works tells me that there would be a healthy population of deer in Louisiana with no danger of collapse if their natural predators were will here and hunters mimicked the role of every other apex predator and culled the herd of less viable members.

Instead, we eliminate the natural predators and take the prime stock from the herd

I don’t have an opinion one way or the other I was responding to the notion that “elk don’t need wolves”, etc. the wolf exists for a reason. Asserting that millions of years of co-evolution is somehow inferior to human manipulation of that situation is just flat out dumb

Carry on

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Then they will die of starvation.

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Nope, then they will go after livestock, the exact same thing that happened in the 1900s

Elk population dwindled, so wolves went after livestock. This will be a rinse and repeat of sorts, unless humans back off their current elk hunting quotas