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Building a Workshop/House for Parents Retirement
Posted on 7/9/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 7/9/17 at 3:50 pm
Actual question in 2nd paragraph.
My parents want to sell their house and move closer to the grandkids for retirement. They own a piece of land near us and will pocket about 90k off the sale of their house. They aren't worried about resale value in the least, so keep that in mind. They just want it to last them another 30 years or so, they're in their early 60's. What they want is a 40x60 metal building that they will put a wall down the middle of, creating a 30x40 shop with a 30x40 house. Other family members and myself will go in and build the house portion. She just wants a simple 2br, small kitchen with a bar/ island, no formal dining, with a walk in shower. They're preparing for living simple as they age. Less maintenance and be able to maneuver with walkers and such. They'll be roaming the country in their rv most of the time, if everything goes as planned.
What type of structure would y'all recommend? All metal/Mueller type building, or pole barn wrapped in metal? Remember their budget and life expectancy of the house. I'm not concerned if it rots to shite as long as it gives them a trouble free life while they're still living. What would a fair roundabout price be for someone to build a 40x60, 12' side walls, 8 to 10 foot L shaped overhang for front porch and 1 side, traditional rolled insulation in the 30x40 shop portion, including slab? And any recommendations on who to call that can do this in the Pointe Coupee area? Hope my description makes sense. I would think the pole barn would be much easier to come in and frame the living quarters on to.
Any advice is appreciated. I'm just trying to help them out as best I can. Thanks!
My parents want to sell their house and move closer to the grandkids for retirement. They own a piece of land near us and will pocket about 90k off the sale of their house. They aren't worried about resale value in the least, so keep that in mind. They just want it to last them another 30 years or so, they're in their early 60's. What they want is a 40x60 metal building that they will put a wall down the middle of, creating a 30x40 shop with a 30x40 house. Other family members and myself will go in and build the house portion. She just wants a simple 2br, small kitchen with a bar/ island, no formal dining, with a walk in shower. They're preparing for living simple as they age. Less maintenance and be able to maneuver with walkers and such. They'll be roaming the country in their rv most of the time, if everything goes as planned.
What type of structure would y'all recommend? All metal/Mueller type building, or pole barn wrapped in metal? Remember their budget and life expectancy of the house. I'm not concerned if it rots to shite as long as it gives them a trouble free life while they're still living. What would a fair roundabout price be for someone to build a 40x60, 12' side walls, 8 to 10 foot L shaped overhang for front porch and 1 side, traditional rolled insulation in the 30x40 shop portion, including slab? And any recommendations on who to call that can do this in the Pointe Coupee area? Hope my description makes sense. I would think the pole barn would be much easier to come in and frame the living quarters on to.
Any advice is appreciated. I'm just trying to help them out as best I can. Thanks!
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Posted on 7/9/17 at 4:04 pm to Slim Chance
I know this is not the route that any of you are heading down...but have you considered a mobile home?
Posted on 7/9/17 at 4:19 pm to Spankum
They looked at mobile homes and said anything they saw that they'd really like the rest of their life were too far out of budget for what it's worth. They don't want the hassle or time to wait for the right used one to come along. They also would rather a slab house so they don't have to deal with ramps/steps when they get older.
They have their mind made up on the "barnaminium" it's just a matter of all metal or pole barn structure at this point, and a reputable contractor to erect it and take care of the cement work.
Thanks though!
They have their mind made up on the "barnaminium" it's just a matter of all metal or pole barn structure at this point, and a reputable contractor to erect it and take care of the cement work.
Thanks though!
Posted on 7/9/17 at 4:34 pm to Slim Chance
All Galvalume building from Reed's Metals.
Should be able to do it for that budget with no problem.
The slab will be about $12,000
Electrical and plumbing about $15,000
Then the building itself about $25,000 give or take.
That will leave $35,000 or so to trick out the interior for their apartment. Should be plenty.
Should be able to do it for that budget with no problem.
The slab will be about $12,000
Electrical and plumbing about $15,000
Then the building itself about $25,000 give or take.
That will leave $35,000 or so to trick out the interior for their apartment. Should be plenty.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 4:48 pm to No Colors
Would you go metal beam construction, or pole barn style? I see Reed's offers both. Am I right in thinking it'll be much easier for us to construct the apartment with wood poles to frame on to? I could be overthinking the difficulty of attaching everything to the steel though. I'm going to give them a call tomorrow. Thanks!
Posted on 7/9/17 at 4:54 pm to No Colors
Also, are those prices you estimated for the concrete and the basic building an installed price, or just a materials price? We want someone to erect the building and we'll come in and frame in, drywall, and all of that for the house portion.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:15 pm to Slim Chance
That should be an installed price. I may be a little light on the building. With installation maybe add $5-10k more.
I would go 100% galvalume.
The problem with attaching studded walls to a pole barn is that the wooden 6x6s could twist or warp slightly as they acclimate. They will come from the treater at like 24% moisture. And they will settle to about 12%. So the could easily move. And that would effect the framing, make doors not close properly, possibly crack sheetrock, etc.
Reed's Metals has a feature on their web site where you can chat with one of their sales people in real time. And they will ask you a few questions and give you a quote right then and there. That will give you a good idea on budget.
I would go 100% galvalume.
The problem with attaching studded walls to a pole barn is that the wooden 6x6s could twist or warp slightly as they acclimate. They will come from the treater at like 24% moisture. And they will settle to about 12%. So the could easily move. And that would effect the framing, make doors not close properly, possibly crack sheetrock, etc.
Reed's Metals has a feature on their web site where you can chat with one of their sales people in real time. And they will ask you a few questions and give you a quote right then and there. That will give you a good idea on budget.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:31 pm to No Colors
Thanks for the pole barn info. That's something I didn't think of.
This is what she wants, but she wants to bring the shop wall straight down, instead of the shop being an L, and making it a 2 bedroom. They'd make that 2nd bedroom a little bigger once they eliminate the 3rd bedroom and bring that shop wall down.
This is what she wants, but she wants to bring the shop wall straight down, instead of the shop being an L, and making it a 2 bedroom. They'd make that 2nd bedroom a little bigger once they eliminate the 3rd bedroom and bring that shop wall down.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:38 pm to Slim Chance
If you situate the building right and have space you could have drive through access for the RV you spoke about. No backing or anything would be nice, especially for aging pops who isn't as sure of himself as he used to be.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:43 pm to Stexas
They're putting in a horseshoe driveway that'll allow them to pull into a separate rv covered shed without needing to back up at all. They won't put it in the shop. It'll be one of those tall metal rv covers that you see a lot of people park their campers under.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:48 pm to Slim Chance
You going to vent the dryer into the shop?
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:08 pm to Slim Chance
Email those plans to Ira Ott
Ira@reedsmetals.com
He will set you up. He has been in the business for 30 years. He will think of some things that you and I haven't though of. I am sure he has one or two projects like this going at any one time. He might even be able to give you some addresses you can go look at.
Ira@reedsmetals.com
He will set you up. He has been in the business for 30 years. He will think of some things that you and I haven't though of. I am sure he has one or two projects like this going at any one time. He might even be able to give you some addresses you can go look at.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 11:07 pm to No Colors
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Email those plans to Ira Ott
relative of Paul Ott?....I notice that they advertise during his radio show.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 6:13 am to Slim Chance
I would probably lean more to a red iron building vs a pole barn mainly because of the desired life of the building and the fact that a pole barn will start to have maintenance issues at the time they will be too old to want to mess with the problems.
If you do go pole construction, id look into perma-columns vs all wood so you don't have any wood in ground contact.
If you do go pole construction, id look into perma-columns vs all wood so you don't have any wood in ground contact.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 7:30 am to No Colors
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They will come from the treater at like 24% moisture. And they will settle to about 12%
Just throwing it out there, some lumberyards do carry KDAT lumber, which is kiln dried after treatment. Much less susceptible to wane/warp.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 7:43 am to Slim Chance
I can't help with the building, but I will tell you this. Make sure their insurance company will insure it or find one that will.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 8:44 am to Slim Chance
Don't mean to hijack, but has anyone financed a a metal building like op wants with living quarters?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 8:59 am to Slim Chance
I have a friend building something very similar in Pointe Coupee. I believe he said the building was quoted at right around 30k from Mallett Buildings . He was going to sub the rest out himself. All quotes totaled out at about 90k.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:14 am to PLaneTiger
If I'm not mistaken, mallet only does pole barns. I've seen them advertise on facebook.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:30 am to Slim Chance
Yep, I believe you are correct. They seem to have quite a few clients that add some type of living area to their buildings. I would contact them if you are curious about the drying of the beams over time. I would imagine it has been addressed if they noticed an issue.
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