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re: Best shot gun for home defense?
Posted on 9/1/12 at 5:29 am to Cash
Posted on 9/1/12 at 5:29 am to Cash
Start with a Police 870. If your budget permits, buy new. You can pick one up between $450-$700 depending on options.
If you are trying to get the best deal, search Gunbroker for a used Police trade-in. There are several dealers on there that get returns from an agency and put them all up for auction between $250-$350. I picked up one for $250 last month and just added an extension tube and an aluminum follower. Later on I will do some other stuff to it.
Make sure when looking it says Police Magnum and not just a police trade-in. You cant beat those guns.
If you are trying to get the best deal, search Gunbroker for a used Police trade-in. There are several dealers on there that get returns from an agency and put them all up for auction between $250-$350. I picked up one for $250 last month and just added an extension tube and an aluminum follower. Later on I will do some other stuff to it.
Make sure when looking it says Police Magnum and not just a police trade-in. You cant beat those guns.
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Posted on 9/1/12 at 6:55 am to Cash
Ole Slick nailed it on the head
Posted on 9/1/12 at 2:58 pm to Boats n Hose
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And I have #4 buckshot in my youth 20ga I use as a home defense gun
I use exactly the same. Wife can handle it as well.
Posted on 9/1/12 at 3:02 pm to Slickback
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Remington 870 12 Gauge 18" barrel, extended mag 00 buck
Posted on 9/1/12 at 3:18 pm to Slickback
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Remington 870 12 Gauge
18" barrel, extended mag
00 buck
The end of this thread.
Posted on 9/1/12 at 3:20 pm to Nascar Fan
I have an 870 as well, but I got creative. I start off with a wide pattern, a dove shot, so you can hit and wound them at a distance. My next shot is a #4, and then the slug, and then the 00 buck, in case they are trying to get away.
This post was edited on 9/1/12 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 9/1/12 at 3:22 pm to wickowick
any pump with BBB steel shot....
Posted on 9/1/12 at 3:41 pm to Kirk Herbstreit
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I have an 870 as well, but I got creative. I start off with a wide pattern, a dove shot, so you can hit and wound them at a distance. My next shot is a #4, and then the slug, and then the 00 buck, in case they are trying to get away.
With that load out I would expect you to start with some rock salt...
Posted on 9/1/12 at 4:16 pm to wickowick
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A pump, so you can pump the gun and scare away whoever you are trying to defend against
I want this to be the last thing an intruder hears
Posted on 9/1/12 at 4:51 pm to Kirk Herbstreit
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I have an 870 as well, but I got creative. I start off with a wide pattern, a dove shot, so you can hit and wound them at a distance. My next shot is a #4, and then the slug, and then the 00 buck, in case they are trying to get away.
frick that. you go from home defense to homicide doin all that bullshite. If you got the balls to shot someone that's in your house you might as well drop them dead first shot.
Posted on 9/1/12 at 6:57 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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I just have an old Mossberg 20 gauge.
What is a good home defense shell? Or is it just
00 Buck???
Federal makes a 3 inch number 2 buck for 20 gauge.
Great round for home defense.
20 gauge buckshot
Posted on 9/1/12 at 8:10 pm to ctiger69
Traditionally, the best self defense shotgun has been the 12 gauge, usually a pump, and usually w/ 00 buckshot. I agree w/ those who've mentioned a youth model, especially in certain circumstances..
I have 2 youth model Mossberg shot guns. Both have been fine guns.One was bought as a home defense gun for my daughter. My daughter did not like shooting larger shotguns, like a full size Remington 1100 or full size Mossberg pump 12 gauge, but she liked the Bantam.
The weapon documented to have the best chance of putting a quick end to an encounter is the 12 gauge shotgun; the 20 also does well and would be a good consideration for recoil sensitive or smaller folks. You can buy a reliable pump shotgun w/o breaking the piggy bank. The newest Mossberg I bought cost $240, brand new. You can get a very serviceable and reliable home defense shotgun without having the newest, 20 round shotgun comlete w/ tactiacl stock, laser range finder, red dot sight, collapsible stock, flashlight, etc. The main thing is that the gun be RELIABLE and one you can HANDLE.
Most reputable self defense folk do not recommend birdshot. Yes, it doesn't penetrate the walls of a building, but it also doesn't penetrate very well in human tissue.
Some good info here:
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and here:
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I have 2 youth model Mossberg shot guns. Both have been fine guns.One was bought as a home defense gun for my daughter. My daughter did not like shooting larger shotguns, like a full size Remington 1100 or full size Mossberg pump 12 gauge, but she liked the Bantam.
The weapon documented to have the best chance of putting a quick end to an encounter is the 12 gauge shotgun; the 20 also does well and would be a good consideration for recoil sensitive or smaller folks. You can buy a reliable pump shotgun w/o breaking the piggy bank. The newest Mossberg I bought cost $240, brand new. You can get a very serviceable and reliable home defense shotgun without having the newest, 20 round shotgun comlete w/ tactiacl stock, laser range finder, red dot sight, collapsible stock, flashlight, etc. The main thing is that the gun be RELIABLE and one you can HANDLE.
Most reputable self defense folk do not recommend birdshot. Yes, it doesn't penetrate the walls of a building, but it also doesn't penetrate very well in human tissue.
Some good info here:
LINK
and here:
LINK
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:12 am to TigerOnThe Hill
00 is overpenetrating inside a house on a human. It doesn't do as much damage a #4 Buckshot will and it's also a lot more likely to penetrate walls and kill someone else in the house.
That's why cops go with it.
Not that 00 won't do it. It will do the frick out of it, but it's not 'tuned' to a human at ten feet.
That's why cops go with it.
Not that 00 won't do it. It will do the frick out of it, but it's not 'tuned' to a human at ten feet.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:25 am to faxis
i prefer a mossberg 500 to the 870 simply on the position of the slide release (behind the trigger guard as opposed to in front of it). its really the only difference between the two.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 12:39 pm to jiffyjohnson
Careful with that 00 Buck if you have children or other ppl living in your house. It will pass through wall and kill on the other side. "Bird shot" will do the trick and won't penetrate the walls. Also depending on where you live, there will be regulations on barrel length.
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:10 pm to America
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"Bird shot" will do the trick and won't penetrate the walls.
Anyone who thinks birdshot will do the best to STOP a perpetrator has been mislead. It spreads way too quickly and the BBs don't have nearly enough mass to go very deep into the skin. If they are up close and personal, of course it will blow their shite apart. But at 10-20 feet, your pattern has a chance of opening up and simply peppering a robber, like this
In this video, TNoutdoors9 did a ballistic gel test with birdshot and determined that it is quite ineffective at doing anything but giving someone a little pain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIfilArIHlY&feature=plcp
00 Buck and #1 Buck are still my top-tier home defense rounds. The Winchester PXD1 is also a viable option, but you don't get as large of a pattern with a slug. This will prove my point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbFLY9OIqPA&feature=plcp
Posted on 9/2/12 at 1:25 pm to bapple
#1 buckshot is my shite
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:20 pm to Tilco Baller
Best shot gun for home defense?
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A pump, so you can pump the gun and scare away whoever you are trying to defend against
I want this to be the last thing an intruder hears
Wrong.... If they have a gun the may shoot first, with frazzled nerves and adrenaline you could mis pump the gun and fail to load.....
The only sound they should hear is boom....
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A pump, so you can pump the gun and scare away whoever you are trying to defend against
I want this to be the last thing an intruder hears
Wrong.... If they have a gun the may shoot first, with frazzled nerves and adrenaline you could mis pump the gun and fail to load.....
The only sound they should hear is boom....
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:52 pm to wickowick
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A pump, so you can pump the gun and scare away whoever you are trying to defend against
^^ this
Posted on 9/2/12 at 3:13 pm to choupiquesushi
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The only sound they should hear is boom....
100% agree. The time a gun malfunctions the most more than any other time is when a person is manipulating the action.
The same thing applies to anyone who carries their handgun in condition 2 with an empty chamber. If you really think you'll be able to draw and rack a round with success under stress you're kidding yourself.
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