re: Apparently the AR-15 was NOT used in the School Shooting (disproved ((maybe)))

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I believe wholeheartedly that anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of firearms could readily distinguish a 223 rifle wound from a 9mm/40 caliber handgun wound. Certainly the EMT's, Paramedics, Physicians and LEO's would pick them out in a heartbeat.

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yeah because apparently there were so many gunshot victims in the newtown area before the school shooting everyone there can tell the difference..

HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD HAVE SEEN A PERSON - IN REAL LIFE THAN HAS BEEN SHOT?


I venture to say.. most of the people you are referring too have never seen a real life gunshot victim prior to this...

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HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD HAVE SEEN A PERSON - IN REAL LIFE THAN HAS BEEN SHOT?


I venture to say.. most of the people you are referring too have never seen a real life gunshot victim prior to this...

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So because the shooting happened in rural Connecticut and not Detroit the LEO's, Paramedics, ER/Trauma Physicians and EMT's which all have Certifications and education regarding the matter are somehow rendered incapable?

Most people have never delivered the Heimlich maneuver, does this mean they are incapable of identifying a person that is choking?

Most people have never been bit by a snake, does this render a person incapable of identying two parallel piercing wounds that correspond to a reptile at their feet?

All the LEO's, Paramedics and EMT's and first responders on the scene had ample opportunity to identify not only the nature of the wounds (entry and exit or entry alone?) but also to survey the scene. Given that a reported 100 shots were fired I'm sure a shell casing or two was lying around.

The fact that a person hasnt seen a gunshot doesnt render them incomptent.

Cutting and running when confronted with a mountain of sound logical evidence and a bit of name calling on the way out the door. Nice...

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So because the shooting happened in rural Connecticut and not Detroit the LEO's, Paramedics, ER/Trauma Physicians and EMT's which all have Certifications and education regarding the matter are somehow rendered incapable?

Most people have never delivered the Heimlich maneuver, does this mean they are incapable of identifying a person that is choking?

Most people have never been bit by a snake, does this render a person incapable of identying two parallel piercing wounds that correspond to a reptile at their feet?

All the LEO's, Paramedics and EMT's and first responders on the scene had ample opportunity to identify not only the nature of the wounds (entry and exit or entry alone?) but also to survey the scene. Given that a reported 100 shots were fired I'm sure a shell casing or two was lying around.

The fact that a person hasnt seen a gunshot doesnt render them incompten

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But that was not your original statement, you said that anybody with any experience would be able to tell the difference between a gunshot made with a 223 vs with a 9mm or .40

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I believe wholeheartedly that anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of firearms could readily distinguish a 223 rifle wound from a 9mm/40 caliber handgun wound. Certainly the EMT's, Paramedics, Physicians and LEO's would pick them out in a heartbeat.

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and I would argue that few people could walk up on a dead child and just look at the gunshot wound and be able to accurately state the caliber they were shot with, or even differentiate the calibers stated

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Lets also not forget that when you investigate a shooting and there are .223 casings all over the floor, the victims were most likely shot with a .223.

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I cannot believe we are talking about wounds when we have this.

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You think a ME with grey hair has never seen a bullet wound? If so, then you are too stupid to argue with.

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I know one... not gonna give you his name.. but I have hunted on his property - and he was a ME.. at age 65.. and as a physician prior to that had never seen a gunshot wound..

also.. in the area where he was ME.. in the time that he was.... the only gunshot wounds he saw were suicides...

there was so much disinformation intitially, as the media outlets desperately spewed forth every single rumor and half truth, in an effort to the firstest with the mostest. I recall hearing the Bushmaster was in the trunk, but the carnage sounded impossible to accomplish with just a couple of semi-auto pistols. I would imagine all the LEOs can easily look at the casings on the floor and determine what what fired. Any person with even the most limited understanding of weapons can differentiate btw rifle and pistol brass, and shotgun shells. Not sure about wounds but the brass would tell the tale.

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but the carnage sounded impossible to accomplish with just a couple of semi-auto pistols.

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Uh, how's that?


Weather is passing. How bad will the walk in trail be?

I said a couple of days after that I was almost sure I saw that AR in the trunk. So many reports from state troopers and coroners came in that he used it, but I could've sworn I saw it in the trunk

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But that was not your original statement, you said that anybody with any experience would be able to tell the difference between a gunshot made with a 223 vs with a 9mm or .40

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I still stand by that statement, I worked in the largest trauma center in Atlanta and now the second largest Trauma center in FL. I've seen quite a few gunshots now and can say with reasonable certainty that if I presented most of you sportsmen with a gunshot wound from the 223 or a handgun and asked you to determine what it was that 95% or more of the time you'd get it right by simply looking at the entry and if available the exit wound.