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Any experience with bridge building at a camp?

Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:14 am
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29237 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:14 am
We've got a very deep creek that cuts through the middle of the property. We're researching simple bridge designs to span the gap (maybe 20 ft?). We want something that can handle the 4 wheelers.

Any of y'all have an ideas/experience with such a project?
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6567 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:18 am to
Drop a culvert and surround it with dirt?


Edit: Do you have a picture of the creek? A culvert would be easiest but 20ft may be a bit far. Some of these other guys have probably done different but we did a culvert where we had a creek washing out the road.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 10:21 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:20 am to
old house trailer frames are usually pretty easy to come by.

if you can't find one of those. use three telephone poles and top with the treated wood of your choice.

I'd also recommend setting metal poles in the ground set in concrete to use as "guides" for the bridge to float up in case the water gets that high. Also, putting the bridge in a "upstream" to "downstream" angle will help with pressure against it when the water gets too high.


I'd also highly recommend bolting 4x4's to the edges to keep anyone from slipping off.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37743 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:20 am to
Buy on old cotton trailer. They're cheap. Whack the sides off and set it in place with a front end loader or a hoe.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:20 am to
You can get 20ft used timber mats for like $500-3500
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:23 am to
We have built bridges and they wear out. The best design (and most sturdy) we have utilized to date on our land is to purchase an old flat bed trailer (56 ft, I believe) and set it. It requires a little dirt work and anchoring, but works well. I think we bought the trailer for less than $4K. Had the wheel structure cut off...put in place with tractor/loader.

We drive 100 HP tractors and an D5 dozer across it all the time...no worries at all.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29237 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:23 am to
the creek is way too deep for a culvert, probably 15 ft down from each bank
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29237 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:25 am to
i really like the trailer ideas. that may work well
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10378 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:27 am to
A couple of points here:

1) what you put there depends more on the amount of water that comes through than anything else. If it's low flow, small watershed, then a large culvert might work.

2) if you really need a bridge, then most people vastly under estimate the length of the span. If you're saying 20 feet, chances are it's more like 30. And then you need 10 feet on either side to secure it.

3) for 50-70 feet, old rail cars are good. Usually can be found for about $3500-5000.

4) if all you are crossing with it is 4-wheelers (no pickups or tractors) then the utility pole idea is very reasonable and cost effective. Be sure to deck it with treated wood.

5) also depends on if this is owned or leased land. If you own the place, or expect to be there for 20 years or more, then you will enjoy something nice. Bite the bullet and spend the money. It will be a good investment. If this is a lease. Then, put a culvert in. If it blows out in a big rain, just retrieve it and put it back. Leases are temporary.
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6567 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:28 am to
quote:

the creek is way too deep for a culvert, probably 15 ft down from each bank




Yea then the trailer ideas are more for you.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:38 am to
quote:

i really like the trailer ideas. that may work well


Ours has been great. It is an 18 wheeler flat bed, so it is engineered for heavy loads. You anchor it with steel rods and gravel.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29237 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:41 am to
the land is owned so we're definitely looking for longevity.

we contacted this company LINK
just to see what they quote
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:42 am to
I was going to suggest railroad ties, but 20' is a bit long for that
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38749 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:47 am to
go to either henderson north of lafayette or the timber home guy in holden, and buy a FEMA trailer. demo the trailer down to the frame

there are 8x20 and should be plenty solid

Posted by ultralite
Member since Feb 2013
106 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:02 pm to
I did some survey work on a property up near Monroe once and the guys that hunted there had made a flatbed cable-car that spanned about 150' over a 25-30' deep ravine.

Massive concrete blocks anchored each end. The cable car looked to be about 5'x10'. The cables themselves were 1" braided steel and it used a winch to move back and forth.

It looked to be pretty old and definitely an insane project.

So there is always that idea.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

timber home guy in holden, and buy a FEMA trailer. demo the trailer down to the frame
That's about all that's left of them anyway.

A damn shame they let those sit out there and rot like that
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6846 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

the land is owned


How much water is in the creek on a regular basis? If it isn't much, why not just cut the banks down instead of building a bridge? would save a ton of time and money.
Posted by tipup
Member since Sep 2005
1649 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

You can get 20ft used timber mats for like $500-3500


Do not go this rout unless they are treated which I don't think they are, at least ours weren't. Busted our butts to build a bridge with these, only to have the bridge rot out in 2 seasons.
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7581 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Any of y'all have an ideas/experience with such a project?


we have the same situation at our camp. we got two 6" steel I beams and tac welded metal grating on top of it. its been solid for about 5 years now.
Posted by Palo Gaucho
Benton
Member since Jul 2013
3334 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:53 pm to
If you can get away with it, a big culvert or tank car covered with dirt is s more economical choice than a bridge. FYI...here is a pic of a otetyy steep crossing that I had put in last week. 60" culvert, dirt from site, logging mat on top. Total cost ~$5k.
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