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Advice on Browning X-bolt
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:35 am
Should I get the 22" barrel or pay the extra $50 or so for the 26". Going to be going to Wyoming for some elk hunting and not real experienced.
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:38 am to kevv824
What caliber?
Will it only be used for the elk hunt or will it be used more in a deer stand?
Any clue what the distances are you'll be hiking?
Will it only be used for the elk hunt or will it be used more in a deer stand?
Any clue what the distances are you'll be hiking?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:39 am to kevv824
Not very versed on rifles but recently read about "twist." I am anxious to hear what some of our posters, who are very knowledgeable about this. have to say- if it even matters in the 22 v 26 inch consideration.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:45 am to The Last Coco
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What caliber?
Will it only be used for the elk hunt or will it be used more in a deer stand?
Any clue what the distances are you'll be hiking?
30.06
Both
Not really
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:50 am to kevv824
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Advice on Browning X-bolt
Get a Tikka
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:59 am to saintsfan1977
I 2nd this. My brother just bought a T3 Sporter in .260, and I must say the gun is as smooth as it gets right out of the box.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:03 am to kevv824
22"-24" is enough, unless you're shooting a magnum caliber, which you are not. 26" can get unwieldy and is probably not necessary for the loads you will be shooting.
I won't comment on your choice of caliber for elk, but you may want to ask more knowledgeable posters with elk hunting experience, and given the conditions of your proposed elk hunt, about that.
Ignore the Browning hate/Tikka love. I have 2 A-Bolts that shoot MOA with Federal ammo with no accuracy mods, one of which is a 30-06. I've heard great things about the X-Bolt, as well.
I won't comment on your choice of caliber for elk, but you may want to ask more knowledgeable posters with elk hunting experience, and given the conditions of your proposed elk hunt, about that.
Ignore the Browning hate/Tikka love. I have 2 A-Bolts that shoot MOA with Federal ammo with no accuracy mods, one of which is a 30-06. I've heard great things about the X-Bolt, as well.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 10:06 am
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:10 am to kevv824
30-06 is fine for elk. No need to spring for a 26" barrel when you don't have a magnum caliber
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:22 am to kevv824
Good luck! I went to the Idaho panhandle last year for elk. It was my first time and I had a blast. Saw more whitetail and mule deer sitting on a stump. Only saw 1 spike and couldn't get the shot off as he was in some brush but I still wouldn't have traded that experience for anything. With the recent birth of a son I have to wait till next year to go back but I definitely will.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:25 am to kevv824
Don't get a 26" barrel on a rifle that isn't one of the fast belted magnums. It'll be a major mega PITA to tote around and you'll be doing wayyyyyyyy more toting.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:18 am to Carson123987
Thanks for the advice everyone
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:34 am to kevv824
Depending on what model you are choosing Browning makes that decision for you I haven't personally seen one of their 30-06 Xbolts with a 26" barrel. I have a Medallion in .270wsm and a Hell's Canyon Speed in .300wsm both of which have a 23" barrel with the .300wsm also having a muzzle break on the end. Both are fine shooting rifles.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:44 pm to Geauxtiga
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Not very versed on rifles but recently read about "twist." I am anxious to hear what some of our posters, who are very knowledgeable about this. have to say
What do you want to know. Different twist rates work better for different bullet weights in the same caliber. If I remember correctly the higher the twist rate the better for heavier (longer) bullets.
ETA: Heavier/longer bullets need a faster twist rate to help stabilize the longer bullet. A faster twist rate means the bullet spins faster.
1:7 barrel has one full turn of the bullet in 7" traveled. That's fast. That's what I have on my AR
Another Edit: My AR-10 in .308 has a 1:11 twist.
It should work best with 168 gr bullets and heavier.
Here is a link:
Shilen twist rates
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:48 pm to kevv824
Honestly you're buying a quality rifle in a very good utility caliber. The less you know beyond that the better off you are because when it comes to killing stuff, pretty much none of it matters. Get a good scope, good scope mounting, and some good elk bullets that it shoots well.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:00 pm to kevv824
Barrel length is all about speed.
26" will launch that bullet about 100fps faster than the 22".
That means you'll have a little less drop and little less wind correction at the same distances.
It may even allow you to reach out a little further if you're comfortable.
The difference in weight should be negligible, but like others have said rhe extra 4 inches make it a little more of a pain to swing around and such.
If it were me and I'm going out to wyoming....I'm getting the 26".
Looks like the 30-06 has a 10 twist barrel so it should shoot the heavier bullets just fine.
Probably try the 180gr loads and see what it likes best.
What are the distances you are planning to shoot?
26" will launch that bullet about 100fps faster than the 22".
That means you'll have a little less drop and little less wind correction at the same distances.
It may even allow you to reach out a little further if you're comfortable.
The difference in weight should be negligible, but like others have said rhe extra 4 inches make it a little more of a pain to swing around and such.
If it were me and I'm going out to wyoming....I'm getting the 26".
Looks like the 30-06 has a 10 twist barrel so it should shoot the heavier bullets just fine.
Probably try the 180gr loads and see what it likes best.
What are the distances you are planning to shoot?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:13 pm to kengel2
Get the 22". That 100fps isn't worth swing around 4 more inches. If you are really trying to reach out then get a 300 win mag instead.
But you are doing it right. You are getting s gun that will work just fine for elk and will be great for deer back home.
But you are doing it right. You are getting s gun that will work just fine for elk and will be great for deer back home.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:24 pm to Carson123987
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No need to spring for a 26" barrel when you don't have a magnum caliber
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:54 pm to kevv824
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30.06
Ok caliber if your shooting distances are not that far. My stepdad killed an elk with a .270 shooting a 130 grain bullet, but it was about a 120 yard shot. If your going to be taking longer shots, you need a bigger gun. I'd go with a 300 win mag personally if this was something I did a lot.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 5:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Don't get a 26" barrel on a rifle that isn't one of the fast belted magnums. It'll be a major mega PITA to tote around and you'll be doing wayyyyyyyy more toting.
This^^^
According to the specs on the Browning web site, the gun w/ a 26" barrel will weigh nearly 1# more than the gun w/ a 22". I wouldn't get a 26" barrel gun unless you were using a belted magnum (e.g. 300 Win Mag) and were going to be shooting very long distances and not moving around. You'd be surprised how much that extra 4" of barrel will catch on everything. Buy a gun that: 1. Handles well for you. 2. You can handle the recoil. 3. You're willing to become proficient shooting. Keep us updated about your hunt.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 5:10 pm to TigernMS12
Ya, load your own ammo for a 30-06 and tell me that its not a capable cartridge for any north American game.
If y'all are serious about the 30-06 Google montanamarine and that dude has provdided data for all sorts of configurations.
26" barrel
190 nosler ablr
2900 fps
1200ft-lbs of energy left at 1200 yards.
If you can't kill something within 200-300 yards with that its the indian not the arrow.
Loading youre own ammo opens up a whole new world.
If y'all are serious about the 30-06 Google montanamarine and that dude has provdided data for all sorts of configurations.
26" barrel
190 nosler ablr
2900 fps
1200ft-lbs of energy left at 1200 yards.
If you can't kill something within 200-300 yards with that its the indian not the arrow.
Loading youre own ammo opens up a whole new world.
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