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300 Honda 4trac issue
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:55 am
Posted on 8/3/18 at 8:55 am
earlier this summer I needed my bike to pull my stuck ztr out of a wet spot. Fired the ole girl up put it in reverse and backed up about 3 feet and it locked up. The motor runs fine and the transmission shifts. I was told the brakes might be locked up. Has anyone had this problem and what do I need to get it going again. Hunting season is around the corner and this ole man doesn't want to buy another one.
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 9:00 am to PoppaTiger
Does the engine strain if you give it gas in gear or rev free?
Jack it up both ends, put it in neutral and try to spin one front wheel. Then try the rear.
Jack it up both ends, put it in neutral and try to spin one front wheel. Then try the rear.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 9:08 am to X123F45
when I give it gas it rocks but when I let off the gas it settles back where it was. I've the back brake tore down but can't get the brake drum off. It's a 98 model. I was hunting in Tenn. and needed my brakes but now I'm in the Morganza spillway and not so much. I'll try spinning the tires and see what I have. Being full time 4 wheel drive will the tires turn?
Posted on 8/3/18 at 9:27 am to PoppaTiger
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I've the back brake tore down but can't get the brake drum off.
Youre not going to until you can get your rear brakes into a neutral position.
The bracket the cable goes to should move back and forth easily. If not get a dead blow hammer and work it free until you can slide the brake drrum off it. The part that goes through the rear brake from that bracket can seize up and needs to be removed and greased.
Take note there are ounch marks on the pin and the bracket and those have to be aligned right when your reasemble.
Basically as that pin rotates the flat portion rolls (it's oblong) and opens the brake against the drum.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 10:17 am to PoppaTiger
Que Rondo and his eternal hate for Honda in.....3....2....1 its coming so be ready. His first comment was a setup for the finale
Posted on 8/3/18 at 10:24 am to PoppaTiger
I noticed the brake handle for the rear brake is tighter now than before. The bracket on the rear for the brakes has some play in it so why would my brake handle be tighter? I know I'm asking some dumb questions but I've never had this problem before.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:00 am to PoppaTiger
Not sure if you can see these photobucket images but that's what it took to get my rear brake drum off.
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:03 am to weadjust
That back brake drum is a mega pain in the arse. Had to cut mine off with a torch.
Eta: nice nice chain puller
Eta: nice nice chain puller
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 11:04 am
Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:14 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Eta: nice nice chain puller
Harbor Freight for less than $15. It still wasn't long enough and the puller ends were to big to fit through the holes in the drum. Had to improvise with some chain, bolts, and zip ties.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 1:55 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
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Que Rondo and his eternal hate for Honda in.....3....2....1 its coming so be ready. His first comment was a setup for the finale
Suck my cock you stalker frick.
I own a 300 honda.
There's a trick to get the drum off, even seized.
Pull the wheel and leave the hub on.
Put a puller or two pieces of metal behind the drum. Attach a ratchet strap around the end of the axle over the hub.
Slowly and carefully crank down.
Once you get it all apart and cleaned up. Adjust brakes properly, tap the drum for a grease fitting, and pump full of marine grease. Brakes will still work but will never have corrosion issues.
As for 4wd affecting front and rear wheels for checking to see what is locked up, open front diff allows some movement of one front wheel even if the rear is seized.
Edit to add: just saw puller pictures above. Just like that works too. And is less afroengineered.
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 8/3/18 at 2:07 pm to X123F45
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tap the drum for a grease fitting, and pump full of marine grease. Brakes will still work but will never have corrosion issues.
How to can be found here Honda Forum
I also drilled a couple of holes in the bottom of the drum cover to let the water drain on my 1990 Fourtrax. You aren't going to keep the water out so you may as well give it a easy way to drain out.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 2:10 pm to weadjust
Honda used to tap the axle tube for you and it can factory with a grease fitting. I can't remember what year they stopped.
But it works great to protect the differential. It basically eliminates bearing failure in the diff due to water if you do it.
Well worth the maybe 10 bucks.
But it works great to protect the differential. It basically eliminates bearing failure in the diff due to water if you do it.
Well worth the maybe 10 bucks.
Posted on 8/3/18 at 3:24 pm to weadjust
My drum wouldn't budge. I had to get that bracket moved to just the right spot a d it released it.
OP you might have to change the brake cable as well. You can also pull the nut that holds the bake handle on. It's shouldered like a bushing and needs to be cleaned and sanded and greased as well. It will free it up and stop hanging.
OP you might have to change the brake cable as well. You can also pull the nut that holds the bake handle on. It's shouldered like a bushing and needs to be cleaned and sanded and greased as well. It will free it up and stop hanging.
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