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2016 Prairie Dog Hunt #1

Posted on 4/30/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6813 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 6:17 pm
Hey guys,

I've got my first prairie dog hunt of 2017 in 2 wks. Making final preparations for it has caused me to reflect back on last years prairie dog hunts. I thought now would be a good time to report on them.

Every summer I try to go on 2 prairie dog hunts. I usually invite friends who've been w/ me before as well as someone who's never been on a prairie dog hunt. The first hunt was w/ booked w/ Rebel Ridge Outfitters in Syracuse, KS, although the actual hunts were in SE CO. The 13 hour trip there went well. We rented a 4’x8’ trailer from U-Haul since 3 hunters and gear take up a lot of space in a single truck. We stayed the first night at a Bed & Breakfast and the last two nights at a motel.

Day #1 was sunny, but windy (mostly 10-15 mph). Shooting was good on the first property we hunted. We hunted a different property in the afternoon and were disappointed to see there were no active prairie dog mounds. Last year we had a really good all day hunt on the same property. The guide said his best property had been stricken by the plague this year, but the afternoon property was supposed to still be good. We went back to the AM property and had another good hunt. Just before dark the wind really died and I had probably the busiest shoot I’ve had on a pd hunt I shot nearly #50 rounds of XP-100 in 6 BR alone. The ranges were fairly close (175-250 yds) so I had a pretty good hit rate. All day my XP 22 BR was hitting high. Late that PM I shot a paper target at 100 yards and found it 5” high instead of dead on. I used the 6 BR the rest of the day.

Day 2 was really pretty w/ high in the mid 90’s, but minimal wind. We hunted a third property this day.The shooting was pretty steady in both the AM and PM. After adjusting the 22 BR scope, my hit ratio was back to normal. A lot of the shots were longer, commonly in the mid 300’s, but sometimes longer. My long shot for the day was approx. 340 yds. Unfortunately, a brewing thunderstorm chased us in early. The three of us shot a total of about #660 rounds for 2 day hunt. We all had a fun time. There'd been more than the usual amount of rain that spring so that there were times we had problems seeing over the grass.

A few observations. The pop-up canopy is invaluable as far as I’m concerned. It enables me to function well in the heat and sun w/ much less fatigue.
I used a new pair of 12X Vortex Daimondback binocs on this hunt for the first time. I really like them.

The guns all performed fine. My friend had not been on a pd hunt before. He mostly used my Stevens bolt action I converted to 221 Fireball, but shot my Savage bolt action 223 Rem some. I think he preferred the Fireball because he could see his bullet impact through the scope. My son-in-law shot his Remington 700 in 204 Ruger and it’s a heck of a pd gun. All my shooting was done w/ XP-100’s, one in 22 BR and the other in 6 BR.

For long range shooting, I really like the Burris Ballistic Plex reticle I had on both 3-12X handgun scopes.

Setting up for a shoot.


6 BR (purple&silver) and 22 BR (black&gold).


Seeing over the tall grass.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56040 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 6:58 pm to
looks like a pretty fun trip!

does anyone have to go out and pick up those that you hit or are there enough predators around to keep the place cleaned up?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29481 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:00 pm to
Prairie dog hunting?

How do they taste? Pot roasted or fried?
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4137 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:58 pm to
Curious about this as well
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8753 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:49 am to
quote:

I've got my first prairie dog hunt of 2017 in 2 wks. Making final preparations for it has caused me to reflect back on last years prairie dog hunts. I thought now would be a good time to report on them.


I'm jelly brother, that's my idea of therapeutic red mist I'm guessing the young pups will still be out during your trip ?

quote:

does anyone have to go out and pick up those that you hit or are there enough predators around to keep the place cleaned up?


mother nature cleans up the mess

quote:

Curious about this as well


coyotes, rattlesnakes, vultures, Eagles and cannibalistic p-dogs eat the dead ones



Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38815 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:25 am to
looks fun
are they a pest of some sort?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20461 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:57 am to
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looks fun
are they a pest of some sort?


Yeah they make 100s of huge holes and mounds. Are really bad for anyone with cattle as the cattle can break their legs.

Eta: so you shot ovsr 600 times, how many would you say you actually hit? Just curious.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 7:58 am
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6813 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:39 pm to
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does anyone have to go out and pick up those that you hit or are there enough predators around to keep the place cleaned up?
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mother nature cleans up the mess


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Curious about this as well
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coyotes, rattlesnakes, vultures, Eagles and cannibalistic p-dogs eat the dead ones


You are correct on both counts, sir.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6813 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

are they a pest of some sort?

Yeah and the ranchers HATE them. Poisoning is expensive and carries risks w/ it. 20 yrs ago or so there was a vacuum device being used to pull the pd's out of their hole and then sold at pet stores; I've not heard of this lately, though. Strangely, in CO the federal government has started a program to re-introduce the black-footed ferret to the plains. The ferret is a natural predator of prairie dogs, but has been absent from the plains for a LOOOONG time. Under the federal program, the landowner is paid an annual fee for a number of years (5 yrs or so IIRC) to allow ferrets to be placed on the land; but, during the length of the agreement, prairie dogs and ferrets are protected. The money paid to the land owner is significant enough that many have signed up for it.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18668 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 6:44 pm to
Growing up in Colorado we used to hunt a ranch in southern Wyoming. We would probably shoot 300 - 500 dogs a trip 3-4 trips per year.

By mid-morning there would be so many Buzzards around we would have to move a couple miles and start over.

We would take 5 - 8 rifles and every round we had loaded for them.

Sako 7mm Mag
Ruger .220 Swift
Sako 22.-250
M1 Carbine in 30.06
.357 Magum (they got wise before we could use that too much)
I forget which other rifles we had at the time damn near 40 years will fog a memory. I remember a ton of fun.

I just tried a couple weeks ago outside Delta, CO and the most 'dogs I saw were on the Grand Junction airport infield.

Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6813 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

Eta: so you shot ovsr 600 times, how many would you say you actually hit? Just curious.


Good question. That's largely a function of distance, wind and shot selection (are you take only high percentage shots are do you sometimes "throw lead"?). I remember one hunt I went on where I hit about 23/24 or 25 shots. BUT, the circumstances were rare. I was hunting by myself w/ a 14" barreled T/C Contender in 223 Rem. I was lying prone on the side of a hill shooting off a bipod, down into a revine. The ranges were 75-125 yds. The dogs acted like they'd not been shot at before. IIRC, I also had a double where I got 2 dogs w/ a single shot.

Generally, if the wind is not too bad and the spotter is good (very important), most shots inside 200 yds should be hits. At 300 yards and beyond, the hit rate is more like <33%. I usually lose the sight picture because of recoil w/ my handguns so the spotter is VERY important for me. If it's windy, even a "close" shot can be tricky. The spotter becomes even more important w/ a windy shoot.

Funny, but if you walk out to the shooting fields before leaving, you'll be surprised how there are a LOT fewer dead dogs than you thought.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30794 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:55 pm to
Looks fun, trying to build up a 223 ai right now. Might try to make one of these.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6813 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

Looks fun, trying to build up a 223 ai right now.

For me, it's a lot of fun. The 223 AI would be a great gun for pd hunting. I'm currently awaiting a 20 Practical barrel (223 Rem necked down to 20 caliber) from Shilen. I'll use it to convert a Stevens Model 200 from 270 Win to 20 Practical.

ETA: The only potential drawback to using an AR for pd hunting is some guides (at least Rebel Ridge Outfitters) don't allow AR's on their hunts. The AR does have real advantages over bolt guns for pd hunting. Last year on our SE CO hunt, there were 2 hunters in the motel room next to us and they used ONLY AR's, w/ great success.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30794 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:58 pm to
Ya, my guess is they don't want some 16" m4 with a red dot out there trying to shoot a prairie dog.

I could see a semiauto being a ton of fun on a pd hunt.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20461 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 1:03 pm to
Yeah they probably don't want people throwing lead on semi auto. Those open prairies a misplaced shot could travel for miles.

Given that, it would be pretty fun not gonna lie.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6813 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

I could see a semiauto being a ton of fun on a pd hunt.

I shot a friend's AR-15 in 223 Rem 2 yrs ago on a pd hunt where semi-auto's were allowed. W/ a bolt 223, the shooter can't see where the bullet hits because of recoil, especially on misses. The spotter will tell the shooter where the bullet hit so he can make the correction for his next shot. Of course, it also takes a few seconds to work the bolt and get back on target. OTOH, it was completely different w/ the AR. On misses, I could see where the bullet hit, get back on target and shoot again while the spotter was starting his description of the miss. An accurate AR could be VERY hared on pd's.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25004 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Yeah they probably don't want people throwing lead on semi auto. Those open prairies a misplaced shot could travel for miles.


How is a semi any different than a bolt? A bad shot is a bad shot. Bullet ends in the same place?

The rate maybe? Me asking.
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