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Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:33 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19653 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:33 pm
What is the Gov deal with trying them to hook up the well to flow? Why not just keep it capped until they kill it with the relief well. Are they believing the tsunami/methane bubble stories. The well was flowing wide open for damn near 3 months, you can expect a drop from the initial reservoir pressure.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14672 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:44 pm to
Suttles contradicted that in his telecon this morning. He said that as long as they're not seeing signs of a leak, the test might be extended on a day-to-day basis until the well is killed. He said that to resume collection would require them to release oil into the environment for 3 days or so and that nobody wants to do that.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41587 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:46 pm to
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that nobody wants to do that.


media is retarded today and have nothing to report so they are making up a story that BP isnt following government orders.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14672 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 5:49 pm to
You had me at "retarded".
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27837 posts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 6:32 pm to
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media is retarded.

fixed
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:02 pm to
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What is the Gov deal with trying them to hook up the well to flow?


I think there are legitament concerns about the integrity of the well bore and the formation. However, with the new containment system in place, I think the administration is chomping at the bit to get an accurate flow rate now that the production can be metered. It would definitely help them in the court rooms to have a solid number and not an estimate. I know that seems counterintuitive, but would it really surprise you considering the Governments performance during this while thing?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:36 pm to
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I think the administration is chomping at the bit to get an accurate flow rate now that the production can be metered.


100% total conjecture on your part.
Posted by Oily Tigah
City of Surup
Member since May 2007
2373 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:45 pm to
This is the way that I look at it:

The safest thing that they can do is let the well flow & capture all the production. If they can do that, then that is what they should do. Why you might ask?

They still are not sure where the well failed. There has been lots of talk about the wellhead seals failing. If that is the case, then they have very little well bore integrity & I would expect the shallower casing strings to fail eventually with that pressure. If they can catch all the production, they should do that & save the shut in time they could potentially have in case of a hurricane.

Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14672 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:56 pm to
If the well is potentially unsafe, do you want to shut it in and then GTFO when a hurricane comes? I don't think so.
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Oily Tigah
City of Surup
Member since May 2007
2373 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 2:16 pm to
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If the well is potentially unsafe, do you want to shut it in and then GTFO when a hurricane comes? I don't think so.


If there is a hurricane they have to GTFO either way. I'd rather leave a well shut in than blowing out.
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 2:17 pm
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1738 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 2:49 pm to
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However, with the new containment system in place, I think the administration is chomping at the bit to get an accurate flow rate now that the production can be metered.


That wouldn't come close to giving an accurate picture of what was flowing before. Flowing to an atmospheric flare or separator with a hundred pounds of back pressure is not anywhere near the same as flowing to the seafloor with 2000 pounds of back pressure.

Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14672 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 2:56 pm to
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If there is a hurricane they have to GTFO either way. I'd rather leave a well shut in than blowing out.

Exactly. In order to do that they have to first find out now whether the well will hold.
Posted by Oily Tigah
City of Surup
Member since May 2007
2373 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 3:49 pm to
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Exactly. In order to do that they have to first find out now whether the well will hold.


No they don't. Either it will hold, or it will only hold for a little while. If it will only hold for a little while, us knowing that is inconsequential. We could use that limited time during a hurricane & not while there isn't one.

The goal is for there not to be oil spilling into the gulf. If they can capture all the production, then that goal has been achieved. To put that at risk for the sake of knowing whether or not the cap will hold makes no sense to me.
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 3:54 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14672 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 6:26 pm to
In the event of a storm, they can't just cap it up without ever having tried it first and hope for the best. If it's going to fail, then it's a lot better if somebody is there to see it.
Posted by jeff967
Monroe, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
925 posts
Posted on 7/19/10 at 8:03 pm to
you are so right
Posted by Oily Tigah
City of Surup
Member since May 2007
2373 posts
Posted on 7/20/10 at 9:26 am to
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If it's going to fail, then it's a lot better if somebody is there to see it.


Because?

Its either going to fail or not. Someone being there to see it is inconsequential. If it fails there will be NOTHING they can do about it. Underground blowouts can not be controlled. Shutting in the well puts it at risk for just that. I'd rather take that risk because of a hurricane, and not just so we can see what happens.
This post was edited on 7/20/10 at 10:26 am
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 7/20/10 at 10:04 am to
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100% total conjecture on your part.


Maybe so, but the evidence is starting to build:

Liability at Issue in Oil Flow Rate in Gulf
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