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Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:49 pm
As we enter the hurricane season, what kind of impact would a hurricane in the gulf have on the oil in the water, as well as, the clean-up?

Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 5:59 pm to
Could be terrible, could be a positive.

A Tropical storm or small hurricane would probably do good things, diluting the oil and bringing tons of rain on land to wash the oil out to see where the ocean can do it's thing on it.

A big storm with a big surge could push oil up into bodies of water and contaminate them.

Ten Tex thinks it will rain crude oil 25 miles inland. That is also a theory.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51912 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 10:11 pm to
The only real negative as far as I can tell is if it disrupts the efforts to stop it.

Everything else is positive. The wave action will both help dilute the oil, and introduce oxygen to the water that will help break down the oil and limit the negative effects of the spill.

Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72980 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

it will rain crude oil 25 miles inland
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/19/10 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

A Tropical storm or small hurricane would probably do good things, diluting the oil and bringing tons of rain on land to wash the oil out to see where the ocean can do it's thing on it.


A friend of mine who works for a coastal restoration company said something similar to this.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 11:34 pm to
Now if we could just get G.W. Bush to make one happen we would be set.
Posted by 1LoudTideFan
Member since May 2008
3599 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 12:38 am to
quote:

it will rain crude oil 25 miles inland


this.

Posted by hurricanecentral
Member since Dec 2007
60 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 3:49 am to
It would just accelerate what is going to happen naturally. It will definitely disrupt efforts temporarily. It is going to be a mess either way. Just think, this is one rig. There are between 700-800 more of these operating out there...
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 6:34 am to
quote:

Now if we could just get G.W. Bush to make one happen we would be set.


Incorrect. A hurricane would be a positive for spill cleanup, and Obama would claim that HE cause it.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24962 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:24 am to
Nothing positive would come from a hurricane. It would push the oil that would have stayed along the edges of the marshes several miles inland. Even a small tropical system would put 3-5' of water in the marshes thereby spreading oil to areas that would have other wise been unaffected.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Nothing positive would come from a hurricane. It would push the oil that would have stayed along the edges of the marshes several miles inland. Even a small tropical system would put 3-5' of water in the marshes thereby spreading oil to areas that would have other wise been unaffected.
This is what id think would happen also. But no one really knows until it happened.
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5716 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 7:55 am to
"Nothing positive would come from a hurricane. It would push the oil that would have stayed along the edges of the marshes several miles inland. Even a small tropical system would put 3-5' of water in the marshes thereby spreading oil to areas that would have other wise been unaffected"
This I agree with. Think of all the 'oil free' places that will suddenly have oil. This would not be good.
Posted by jglass3lsu
Member since Jan 2007
882 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 8:14 am to
There would be news clips of marine biologists wiping the crude oil off little coonass babies...
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51912 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Nothing positive would come from a hurricane. It would push the oil that would have stayed along the edges of the marshes several miles inland. Even a small tropical system would put 3-5' of water in the marshes thereby spreading oil to areas that would have other wise been unaffected.


This would only be a concern if the storm comes out and makes landfall around Lafayette coming in from straight out.

Basically only if the right hand side of the storm passes over the accident site.

But to say NOTHING positive would come from a hurricane even if it has this worst case track is just flat out wrong.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24962 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:15 am to
quote:

This would only be a concern if the storm comes out and makes landfall around Lafayette coming in from straight out.

Basically only if the right hand side of the storm passes over the accident site.

But to say NOTHING positive would come from a hurricane even if it has this worst case track is just flat out wrong.


Not true. Strong south winds for a few days will push water into the marina parking lots. A tropical system making landfall from Mobile to Galveston will push water in the marshes.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:17 am to
It could be both good and bad.

Volvagia made some good points in his last post:

quote:

This would only be a concern if the storm comes out and makes landfall around Lafayette coming in from straight out.

Basically only if the right hand side of the storm passes over the accident site.


My question is what it would do to the underwater plumes of oil. How deep are these things, and could a storm potentially help resolve some of the problems that these underwater slick can cause.

Anyone got any theories?

Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51912 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:22 am to
quote:


Not true. Strong south winds for a few days will push water into the marina parking lots. A tropical system making landfall from Mobile to Galveston will push water in the marshes.


Could it push some oil in? Yes. Could it push it it where it it causes major harm on the interior (even if it is noticeable)? Not unless it follows the track I mentioned. Or at least that is my semi-informed opinion.

Solution to pollution is dilution...the coastal concentration of oil isn't that potent that pushing it further inland is inherently bad and may have some positive function due to spreading it out.

And like I said earlier, the turbulent waters will facilitate dispersal and more importantly, introduce significant quantities of oxygen to the water which is critical for the degradation of the oil already dispersed.

It would not effect the spreading of the underwater plumes discovered.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24962 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:26 am to
I just think it would have more cons than pros. All the boom in place would be gone, the drillship on location to siphon the oil would have to move. You would halt all clean up efforts for several days.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51912 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:26 am to
quote:

How deep are these things, and could a storm potentially help resolve some of the problems that these underwater slick can cause.


Around 3-4 thousand feet deep.

And yes. The immediate concern of the underwater slick is the generation of an anoxic region caused by the breakdown of the oil.

Ideally (insofar as the damage of the oil leak), after the leak is stopped we get hit by a series of mild hurricanes that do not have a track with the right hand side of the storm passing over the leak site.

In fact, if the storm hits the Alabama/MS line, it might push a lot of the oil away from our coast while further dispersing it.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Around 3-4 thousand feet deep


Thanks. Been out of the loop for a few days, and couldn't remember the depths. And knowing they are that deep, yeah, they would be unaffected unfortunately.
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