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re: Youth Coaches - Cutting a Player

Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

that the tryouts should be evaluated by a third party, and then the coach is informed of who made the team.


the hell.....
Some high schools do this for various sports. Administration does this so no fingers cant point to them or politics. Its not fair to the kids that were on the team deservedly and had a bad tryout that day. Its chicken shite really.
Posted by LSUTIGERMANIA
Beaumont, TX
Member since May 2014
57 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:29 pm to
The best thing you can do is tell them outright that their son is not progressing as fast as the rest of the kids. Truth may hurt but at least they will respect you for telling them. It may strain your relationship for a while but if your a coach thats your job.
If you just want to field a team to coach(no wins) grab all the kids that arent up to par and COACH them, and tell the families if winning is all you want then this isnt the team for you, OR if you pick the kids who can play and win. YOUR CHOICE. I had the same delima and I remember my dad CRYING when he had to cut kids who couldnt make the Lil Dribblers Basketball team. I live in a small town and everybody there knows each other and are usually friends(he had to cut one of his best friends kids, tore him up really)
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:30 pm to
Why do such a high percentage of kids play baseball and soccer around ebr? Why are there 1000 baseball teams? Is baseball more fun than other sports?

Probably a pointless question.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:31 pm to
I'd say so
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37104 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:32 pm to
Things were much better (in my opinion) when I was a kid. Everyone went to their local playground league. Everyone got divided up into teams. League play was held. Towards the middle/end of league play, all-star team tryouts were held, the team was chosen, and at the end of the league, the all-star team did their thing the rest of the summer.

Everyone got to play, and the best kids got to play a second season.

To the OP... you never really said why you think a few kids will be cut. Does the next level have a smaller roster size? Are you planning on replacing those kids with other kids?

I would tell all the parents now that you are going to hold an open tryout in a month or so, and you will take the best 13 kids (or whatever the number is) and since it's an open tryout, there will be kids who try out who are not on the current team. As such, you will take the best 13 kids, which means it is possible that one or more current kids won't make the team.

I would make sure that you have a completely objective tryout system - where things are clearly measured and tracked.

And for the kids that don't make the team, I would offer to help find them another league to play in.

This is much easier to accomplish when the kids are going to be 13, as opposed to 9.

I also think you need to make very clear that you will hold an open tryout each summer and that the kids who are cut are welcome to try out again next year. If you are going to hire mercenaries, might as well hire mercenaries each year.
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:48 pm to
I hate dealing with parents and that's the main reason I got out of coaching and I refuse to coach up here
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8973 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:07 pm to
Nothing beats daddy ball. Your kid can make 10 errors and still play shortstop but I be damned if that outfielder or 3rd baseman lets one ball past them. They will sit the bench for the rest of the game.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11867 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 6:03 pm to
Unless you are losing money by having those kids on your team then there is no real reason to cut them and ruin the friendships.
Posted by bpinson
Ms
Member since May 2010
2668 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 6:57 pm to
We lived in Mandeville/Covington back in the late 90s and I was selected to coach the "B" all star team. As I recall they were about 9-10 yo. I wanted my asst coach and his son on my team, but the commish wouldn't allow it. Anyway, my assistant's son went on to pitch at St Paul. We scrimmaged the "A" team and beat the shite out of them. They refused to play us any more.

We moved back to Ms to a small town south of Jackson and didn't know anyone so my )younger son was stuck in right field for about 3 yrs. The coaches' son played 2nd base and would make 3-4 errors a game and never got the hook. Most of the kids whose parents thought they were good quit and never played high School ball. My younger son attended the public high school and played from the 8th to the 12th grade, (OF, 1st, 2nd, pitcher and 3rd). He struck out 14 in 1 game his Sr yr and batted over .350 the last 3 yrs.

All that being said, when my younger son would complain about being stuck in RF, I told him to hustle on and off the field and knock the shite out of the ball every chance he got and the rest will work itself out, and it did.

You can only have so many on the roster, make the right decision and stick with it and the rest will work itself out.

Good luck.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:21 pm to
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business is business


That's just it. Little league baseball used to be.. not business like.
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2603 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:38 pm to
I was on the local DYB board for 6 yrs. and coached for 8. I lost more friends than I made. Just be straight up with them and let the chips fall. Also, don't cross that bridge before you get there. I had several work themselves out before it came down to the nut cutting.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17812 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:40 pm to
some parentts are freakin idiots-had one parent cuss me out at the dugout saying F-Bombs and this was 7-8 yr old girls. Freakin pathetic
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:43 pm to
Is that you Mainieri ??
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56288 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:47 pm to
You and your fellow coaches got kids on this team?
Posted by bpinson
Ms
Member since May 2010
2668 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:49 pm to
Be sure to draft some MILFs.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:57 pm to
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You and your fellow coaches got kids on this team?

gracias, I wasn't about to read through this, but that was going to be my question, odds are, there's about 9 coaches on that team, and each one's kid gets rotated through the mound, plays SS, etc., and is probably not as good of an athlete, nor is as interested as the inferior scum that's about to be cut(and the scums' moms probably have nicer bewbs!)
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 8:11 pm
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5700 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:52 am to
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At 9 years old kids who work hard in practice and want to get rings or hold the trophy don't want other kids to bring them down. They know what winning is and who is keeping them from it.
I beg to differ. Ask a 15-year old what his most memorable moment was from his 9-year old baseball season. At 9, they just want to have fun (and please their parents, which BTW is damn near impossible for some).

quote:

they either don't have kids or their kids weren't that good at sports.
Suck it. Your child won't play pros just because he's more athletic than mine at age 9.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 5:53 am
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5700 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:54 am to
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some parentts are freakin idiots-had one parent cuss me out
I had the same thing happen to me because I pulled their special 9-year-old off the field after 2 innings in order to make sure everyone got a little playing time.
Posted by Team Purple
Member since Feb 2009
1238 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:20 am to
Bottom Line - Find good parents who have good players. Play them all. My son's team has 10 kids on it and each sits an inning and each player plays 2-3 positions. Our coach does a pretty good job with all that. My son doesn't play shortstop(Pitches and plays OF and loves it). As long as your son is getting what he needs, the parents are good, realistic people and your kids are having fun as a group that is what it is all about.

PS: Gotta keep a kid that has a pool and parents who don't mind drinking a little and hanging out together.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4915 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:30 am to
I'm amazed at the effort and energy put into some of these responses. There is no such thing as competitive youth baseball and if you think there is, you're ignorant. Kids like to play and like to win sure, but do you really think they give a shite 20 min later if the result is a loss? Give them Dairy Queen and an Xbox and they are over it. It's not like Derek Jeter who uses the ALCS loss as motivation for the next year.

I get top tier kids need to play at a top level, I was one of them, but suggesting it must be done anytime before high school is comical. There were kids who didn't belong on my travel team in hs just as much as those who didn't belong on my city team as a kid. Regardless if you keep them on the team or cut them, don't be the guy who is talking about a 6inning district thriller when your son is 25.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 6:31 am
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