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WSJ: Car Prices Might Be Unsustainable for Buyers
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:41 pm
In other news..water is wet
WSJ
WSJ
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Five years ago, there were a dozen models of new cars that sold for less than $20,000. In 2023, there was only one: the spartan Mitsubishi Mirage hatchback
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If you are willing to spend more than $100,000, you can choose from 32 models.
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For the average American, paying off a new car at current prices demands 42 weeks of income, according to data from Cox Automotive, up from around 33 before the pandemic.
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Bargains have been hard to come by on the used-car lot as well, where the average vehicle listed for about $27,000—up more than 30% from prepandemic levels, according to Cox’s data.
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Higher interest rates have made the situation more difficult for buyers. Today’s average new car loan has a monthly payment north of $750, with an interest rate of 9.5%. For used cars, the average rate is above 13.7%, according to Cox. The average term for loans issued over the past three years is nearly six years,
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Seasonalized rates of severe delinquency for auto loans are the highest since at least 2006
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:43 pm to Sterling Archer
I mean, at some point these prices have to slow down.
My 2016 XLT F150 4x4 cost $37.5K. One today is over $60K.
My 2016 XLT F150 4x4 cost $37.5K. One today is over $60K.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:44 pm to kywildcatfanone
Wish it would hurry up. I have to buy my bride a new car next year.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:44 pm to Sterling Archer
It’s nuts. But you still have plenty of clowns ready to finance for 84 months
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:46 pm to kywildcatfanone
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My 2016 XLT F150 4x4 cost $37.5K.
I got an xlt in 2016 as well for the exact same price. Then I got 10k for my Tacoma that had 125k miles on it from a private buyer. We didn’t know how good we had it
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:46 pm to kywildcatfanone
2016 F150 Lariat 4x2 $41k. Today same truck $74k. Riding it til it dies. F150 work trucks are $50k.
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:47 pm to Sterling Archer
Except it won't, and it'll just keep getting pushed out with longer loan terms. People are financially morons, and the system needs us to keep spending since we refuse to allow for people to actually lose.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:47 pm to Sterling Archer
I was born the 60s, my parents never bought a new car until the late 80s. Looks like we're going back to those days
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:48 pm to Sterling Archer
I'm getting ready to purchase early next year and I'm dreading having to do so with the current rates and vehicles being sold above MSRP.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:49 pm to Sterling Archer
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Today’s average new car loan has a monthly payment north of $750, with an interest rate of 9.5%
WTF
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:49 pm to Sterling Archer
The problem is you frickers keep paying it. As people keep buying new over and over again they will keep raising the prices unchallenged. If everyone started keeping their cars longer and buying used for a while they will have no choice to sell lower as demand slows and supply grows.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:50 pm to dlambe5
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2016 F150 Lariat 4x2 $41k. Today same truck $74k.
Where do yall pull these number from? A new Lariat starts at $57k. The costs are bad enough without exaggerating.
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:50 pm to Sterling Archer
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Today’s average new car loan has a monthly payment north of $750, with an interest rate of 9.5%.
Cot damn.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:50 pm to Sterling Archer
Yea no shite. But hey 120 month financing is here to soften the blow.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:50 pm to Sterling Archer
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the spartan Mitsubishi Mirage hatchback
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:51 pm to Sterling Archer
Fuel efficiency regulations don't help.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:51 pm to dlambe5
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Riding it til it dies.
quote:ride will be shorter than you think.
2016 F150 Lariat 4x2
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:52 pm to LNCHBOX
He wasn’t exaggerating
Just googling I found 10 immediately all between $73-$76k. Wasn’t an exaggeration
Just googling I found 10 immediately all between $73-$76k. Wasn’t an exaggeration
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:52 pm to LNCHBOX
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Where do yall pull these number from? A new Lariat starts at %57k. The costs are bad enough without exaggerating.
MSRP =/= actual price
Dealers are marking everything up. It's called Adjusted Market Value and idiots pay it.
My car was in the shop for a warranty and I walked around and everything on the lot was marked up $5-20K. It's insane.
Posted on 8/21/23 at 1:53 pm to LSUtiger89
You’d swear the OT was some Dave Ramsey offshoot.
You know these Prarieville/Central/Mandeville/Covington/Woodlands folks (or their ole ladies) aren’t riding around in used Camrys or Corollas.
You know these Prarieville/Central/Mandeville/Covington/Woodlands folks (or their ole ladies) aren’t riding around in used Camrys or Corollas.
This post was edited on 8/21/23 at 1:55 pm
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