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re: WSJ - Significant increase in poor quality furniture in the US

Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 8:39 pm to
Quality can still be found, but not at your local furniture showrooms.

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Posted by CalcuttaTigah
Member since Jul 2009
771 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 9:04 pm to
Nadeau is absolute trash. Looks interesting, but it’s trash.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1219 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:42 pm to
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NAFTA destroyed it.




I'm not smart enough to be a economist, but it sure seems NAFTA make things %15 cheaper to buy for the middle class and 500% cheaper for conglomerates to bring to sale. All the while destroying small towns everywhere. Net "gain" for the economy on paper but a major loss for the middle (and poor) class.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7319 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:19 am to
I bought a leather sofa and love seat from Bassett Furniture about 20 years ago. They have held up very well.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7194 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:49 am to
Outside of upoholstered furniture I have built every thing in our house. I built my daughter a simply queen sized storage bed room suit (bed base with drawers, bookshelf headboard, 2 night stands and a 6 drawer chest and mirror) for less than $600. Very simple design but exactly what she wanted and its far better than anything that we could have bought and cost about 1/3 as much...plus we did it together so we spent some time together and she hopefully learned something (mostly how to cuss properly LOL). Of course I don't build mattresses and we have 2 couches and 2 recliners that we buy replace every 3 years or so but the tables and dressers and hard chairs that I have built just keep on going. We have a bedroom suit I built 35 years ago that is still as solid as the day it was finished.

I was at a good will store a few weeks ago dropping some stuff off and I always go in to see if there are any tools I can't live without. They had a pretty nice bedroom suit someone had donated - dovetailed drawers, solid wood rails, stiles drawer boxes and drawer fronts. 2 night stands, head, footboard, rails and a 6 drawer dresser. Good will. $1000 and it was sold. I could have built the same thing for $500 even as high as hardwood lumber is today and it'd be an heirloom piece that is passed on. Most of it is junk and all of it is overpriced.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
7194 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:58 am to
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Upholstered furniture like couches, sofas, lounge chairs etc are all made in the US. About half of them are made in NE Mississippi.


Most of it has poplar for a frame and is actually pretty well made. Theyre are some manufacturers who use a lot of paper and sheating or worse to build frames from but if it is built out of poplar or oak or some variant the wood in it is good for years. Any metal may be suspect.

Most of the stuff sold in chain furniture stores is made in Asia and is made from Bananna wood which is also a fantastic material to build frames and even wooden furniture. It doesn't have a lot of character but it can be stained and finished to mimic almost anything and is about as sustainable as wood gets (it has to be steamed or boiled to use as lumber which probably uses a heap of energy compared to air dried lumber) but it is extremely workable and durable. We import almost none of it in unfinished lumber.

On the same subject there is no plywood made in the United States that is worth a tinkers damn. No matter how much it costs American and North American manufacturers will not make quality sheet goods. They surely have the ability but they do not do it. Chinese plywood is INFINITELY higher quality than anything manufactured in the United States or Canada. It may be glued together with glue made from human beings or somce toxic chemical that will kill you graveyard dead but it will be dead flat, nearly devoid of voids and square. North American plywood is none of these.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:59 am to
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The better made furniture was made in North Carolina



Still is. Very high quality.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7194 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:00 am to
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China is definitely a culprit, but consumers also have no idea how to identify good construction and materials. Consumers look for trendy shite. So manufacturers skimp on good construction and materials, and instead use cheap stuff to go with trendy looks


Most people do not want a living room suit for more than about 3-5 years. We replace our couches and recliners about every 3 years.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7194 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:08 am to
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Most women are looking to remodel and redecorate everything after 3 years anyway. It’s just a shame we are paying high end prices for low end crap


Like fools my wife and daughter insisted we buy a house in a subdivision with a pool and club house and pickleball and the like...none of which none of us use as I predicted. Those homes are designed to last about 15-20 years if one is lucky. The kitchens are GORGEOUS in photographs but in reality are not any better than what is put in high end mobile and modular homes. That development is going on 10 years old and now and I would bet at least 75% have had a complete kitchen remodel and about 30% are on the second one. People are ate the frick up with remodeling and chasing trends. There are several delivery trucks a day from furniture stores and appliance stores in our neighborhood of about 75 homes. Bathrooms are the same way. Folks spend a FORTUNE keeping up with trends and one another and complain about being broke. If they bought high quality shite all they would do is haul it to good will or sell it on facebook and buy some more...
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20439 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:14 am to
It's not just furniture. It's just about everything these days. We are a disposable society now. Instead of buying high-quality appliances, furniture, etc. and fixing them when needed, we get cheap shite that we toss out when it breaks. Everything is plastic now; even the gears in small appliance motors. It is one of the big differences between my grandparent's generation that grew up during the Depression and my generation. Today people would consider my grandfather a cheap son of a bitch for squeezing every last bit of life out of his stuff.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 7:56 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:27 am to
Long story short:
If something is messed up that can simply be unbolted, replaced, and bolted back in it may be worth repairing. If it’s something that requires soldering/welding or computer/wiring it’s probably best to get a new one.

Long story long:
My ice maker went out a few months ago. It just quit making ice. We looked at buying a new one vs getting this one repaired. Buying a new one was roughly 2x what the repair was originally quoted to me from the repair tech.

Well, after the repair it still didn’t work so the repair company had to repeatedly come out to troubleshoot and fix it. It’s now finally making ice 3 months after the initial repair but the automatic shutoff doesn’t work, so if we go on a long trip we will need to unplug the ice maker.

All in, I came out about $300 ahead of buying a new one and now have one that still isn’t 100% working.

That also said, at the exact same time the dishwasher and the washing machine broke. My wife and I repaired the washing machine ourselves for less than $100 in parts but decided to pay a different company to look and repair the dish washer. They fixed it, and with labor it came out to be around $150 with parts.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:38 am to
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Outside of upoholstered furniture I have built every thing in our house.


Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28247 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:48 am to
Yes.

Basset.

Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5723 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:31 am to
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If you buy furniture made in China...just expect a short lifespan


Most of the furniture for sale today comes from a place even worse than that.. Mississippi.
Posted by Combaro01
Member since Mar 2024
9 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:31 am to
I purchased a custom USA-made U-sectional couch about six months ago. It has a kiln-dried solid wood frame, which prevents the wood from warping or developing small cracks over time. And it has reinforced corner blocks. This level of reinforcement guarantees that the sofa will last longer. Paid for it about $6000.
Before this purchase, I owned a couch that lasted over 15 years without any major issues. That kind of longevity is something I value when investing in furniture. So I hope this new one will last as long.
If anyone is interested, I bought the new couch from the What A Room store. You can check their customizable couches here.
This post was edited on 3/30/24 at 1:24 pm
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