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Would you take this class structure during the semester?

Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:14 pm
Every 1/2 semester before midterms you can take "patchy classes"

Patchy classes are classes that run for 4 hour segments throughout the semester. You need to take half the segments before test 1 (segments 1-4), and the other half before test 2 (segments 5-8). After you take all 8 parts of the class in your own time (when they are offered) then you get credit for the course.

Different faculty teach different portions of the course through the semester. A single faculty will teach their part of the course multiple times through the semester.


Benefits:
-cheap on the university
-money for the university
-cheap for student
-convenient for student
-classes during actual session
-not online (cheap for university, good for student)



Old idea the Patch Class idea is based on:
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I thought about a way to get an online class in a classROOM. Online classes are great, but they often don't allow a student to jump ahead when they want. So the student can't do 4 hours of work to stay ahead of schedule. They can only do things on schedule.

That mold can be broken if done in person.

And the classroom mold can be broken if students can get all the material they need in a small window of time, then they take their own time to review that info.


Here's the deal:

You are in class about 150 minutes a week, and across 16 weeks, that's 2,400 minutes...or 40 hours.

I propose that a class structured as

2 16 hour lectures (32 hours)
2 4 hour tests (8 hours)
2 days for course review before each test
1 day off between test 1 and lecture 2

= 9 total days per course (LrrTrLrrT)

follows meets the same demands as a regular college course for students who want to get a class out of the way.

You still have to have the 3 hours per hour you are in class built into the course review, and those 2 days off between lecture and test more than fulfill that.

The 16 hour lecture will have a couple of breaks. The class could go from 7am until 11pm, and adjusted for breaks that are needed.

What's good about the test aspect, and that aspect following the rules of the university, is you can get an actual letter grade and not a pass/fail grade in this course.

Next, you are probably wondering about how you can fit a course like this in your busy college schedule.

There are a couple of ways around this including being able to switch sections after test 1. But the obvious is this:

SMTWTFSSM - days of the week
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LrrTrLrrT - L=lecture; r=rest day; T=test

The test can be scheduled with the universities testing center and can be taken at any time the student wishes 48 hours after the 1st lecture and 12 hours before lecture 2.



All in all...
You're basically fitting an entire course into the time it takes for a long drive...or the time it takes to listen to a long audiobook. Except, you'll be tested on the audiobook. You get college credit. It's like testing out of something, but you just go to class for 2 lectures and take the test.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted by TheDeathValley
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:16 pm to
Oh you mean an intercession class?
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:17 pm to
no, because I am confused with your post, and therefore wouldn't support something that confuses me.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:17 pm to
You want someone to listen to a 16 hour lecture?
Posted by BayouBandit24
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:18 pm to
A lot of work went into this, and in the end it's simply tl;dr
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Oh you mean an intercession class?



An abbreviated class that is offered during the normal sessions.

And takes less meetings.
Posted by Grim
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:20 pm to
I didn't read that but I'm banging your mom
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

You want someone to listen to a 16 hour lecture?


Do you expect someone to travel 16 hours to see family members? You do? Oh.

Do you expect me to listen to 8 two hour podcasts while I tackle a project at work? You do? Oh.


I took care of this argument in the OP!
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Online classes are great, but they often don't allow a student to jump ahead when they want. So the student can't do 4 hours of work to stay ahead of schedule. They can only do things on schedule.
That fricking pisses me off. I took one independent study class before I realized this. Got to the first stopping point, and just quit. It's not like I'm not doing the material. Wtf school?
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

A lot of work went into this, and in the end it's simply tl;dr


Just answer the title question then...
Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:22 pm to
I doubt anything would get done after 8 hours, by the students or the professor
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:22 pm to
You have too much free time on your hands.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:25 pm to
That seems pretty dumb to me.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:27 pm to
I would have taken that schedule.

Especially for electives.

frick the haterz, brah!

Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

That seems pretty dumb to me.


I'm just looking at the needs of the students and the way the world works today.


Also, the needs of the university.

This will be a very easy class on the money books for the university.

WIN WIN
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

You have too much free time on your hands.


This kind of stuff pours out of me when I get a kernel of an idea.

I did this entire process in the time it took me to write it. What is your keyboard WPM?

That is how long it took me to type it!
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:32 pm to
None of that material would stick. 9 days is an arbitrary number.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:32 pm to
There is no way you'd retain any of that material long term. You couldn't do it for anything but the most simplistic of material.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:33 pm to
Why not just make syllabus's available and offer CLEP tests?

I couldn't imagine a professor wanting to give a 16 hour lecture.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

I doubt anything would get done after 8 hours, by the students or the professor



I've been in long classes where this is the case.

I think you get the right professor in there and it will go well.

If the students don't do anything that's their prerogative. If they take the test and get the grade they want, that's good on them.

It'd basically be offering a class that they can't test out of a test that they could test out of. Heck...the student could even zone out or leave...as long as he does well on the test, he gets credit.


*I'm using he here like they do in rules descriptions. Not hating on women.
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