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re: Winter storms shouldn't be named....

Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:48 pm to
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Looks like you have typothermia...


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Typothermia is the condition when one: makes repeated typographical errors on keyboard


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because of cold climatic conditions when one's fingers become too numb.


No..im just drunk
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:49 pm to
I hate it, too. Its corrupt, and they're in the bed with insurance companies. Homeowners sometimes suffer higher deductibles for 'named storms'


Guess what?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13365 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:59 pm to
I find it funny about storm naming conventions...when I moved up here to Alaska I noticed that during the Fall and Winter they get these huge Bering Sea storms that look almost exactly like hurricanes on radar/satellite...even have super low pressure readings, yet not a single one of them get named

Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:06 pm to
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developing their own severe weather indicies such as "TOR:CON".


I'll stop you right there. The TORCON isn't a calculation, but a metric used by Dr. Forbes on what he thinks the chances of a tornado are, and he's spot on. When it comes to severe weather forecasting, very few are better than him. He studied under Dr. Fujita, and was on the ground with him during the 1974 super outbreak. He developed the idea that hook echos form the stongest tornadoes, and helped develop the EF scale to replace the Fujita scale, created by his mentor.

Fun fact: Dr. Fujita lived in Kokura, Japan in 1945, which was the first target for both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, but was passed over both times due to weather conditions.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 10:10 pm
Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Member since Feb 2012
18176 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:28 pm to
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Meteorologists and others who report the weather are the most overhyping people alive.



What an ignorant statement.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11424 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:34 pm to
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I'm sure insurance companies have something to do with storms getting "named". Lots of these homeowner policies have "named storm deductibles" where they get to jack up the deductible percentage. The more storms that are named, the less they have to come out of pocket to cover their policy holders.



Correct.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:54 pm to
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I'm sure insurance companies have something to do with storms getting "named". Lots of these homeowner policies have "named storm deductibles" where they get to jack up the deductible percentage. The more storms that are named, the less they have to come out of pocket to cover their policy holders.

On the coasts you are correct, but in the Midwest it is just wind/hail deductibles. Strength of storm is irrelevant if there was any wind or hail damage at all it applies.
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 12/28/16 at 11:02 pm to
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I'm sure insurance companies have something to do with storms getting "named". Lots of these homeowner policies have "named storm deductibles" where they get to jack up the deductible percentage. The more storms that are named, the less they have to come out of pocket to cover their policy holders.
Not unless your homeowners policy defines named storm to include any storm named by the Weather Channel. As a previous poster stated it is only the Weather Channel naming these storms, not NWS.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42272 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:54 am to
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I'll stop you right there. The TORCON isn't a calculation, but a metric used by Dr. Forbes on what he thinks the chances of a tornado are, and he's spot on. When it comes to severe weather forecasting, very few are better than him. He studied under Dr. Fujita, and was on the ground with him during the 1974 super outbreak. He developed the idea that hook echos form the stongest tornadoes, and helped develop the EF scale to replace the Fujita scale, created by his mentor. Fun fact: Dr. Fujita lived in Kokura, Japan in 1945, which was the first target for both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, but was passed over both times due to weather conditions.

I'm not doubting the science behind it or doubting Dr. Forbes, but I feel that the development of TORCON came partially out of The Weather Channel being a hype machine. Scientific or not, it still causes confusion with the public because The Weather Channel is the only one that uses it. I can't tell you how many times I have seen people ask a local meteorologist what the TORCON values are for any given severe weather event, but no one else other than The Weather Channel follows them. So you end with the weather channel saying one thing and other weather info outlets saying something else.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:25 am to
it's just The Weather Channel trying to drum up views

Winter lows aren't discrete events like hurricanes are... measuring the full extent of their effects to classify under a single name is a fool's errand.

but apparently The Weather Channel thinks it's good marketing so they'll keep doing it.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124081 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:52 am to
fricking Yankees need to feel special since they rarely get hurricanes.

Even got their little hurricane upgraded to a "super Storm"
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17131 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:05 am to
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TOR:CON


Dr. Greg Forbes' TOR:CON analysis has been spot on in its predictions of tornados activity in the BR Metro area.

One particular storm, he set a TORCON of 8 for the viewing area 24hrs ahead of time. We had multiple cyclones that day.
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