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re: Wilson's own account about what happened on the day he shot Michael Brown
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:52 am to 2close2Gainesville
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:52 am to 2close2Gainesville
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Do you have sympathy for the actual victims who have to protect themselves against violence, those who provide services, but are treated like shite by people like you.
I don't treat service providers like shite, clown.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:58 am to Rex
You edited your OP. Notice how you took the part out where you said Wilson didn't know about the store robbery. Typical.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:02 pm to tiderider
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shocking ... cop benignly suggests they walk on the sidewalk, thug says "frick you", slams the door, and it deescalates from there ...
Did you even read it?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:03 pm to 2close2Gainesville
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You edited your OP. Notice how you took the part out where you said Wilson didn't know about the store robbery. Typical.
I edited the OP to correct my link, which was all I had posted.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:05 pm to Rex
I'm trying to go through some of the evidence right now and was reading this earlier. I know he shot 12 shots total from the evidence. In his testimony he said 2 in the car and I am trying to make out if he is claiming 3 bursts in his testimony.
If you listen to the audio there are 10 shots, so that is all of them except for the 2 in the car. It only sounds like 2 bursts of fire to me.
LINK
Am I just reading his testimony wrong or did he talk about 3 bursts?
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A: ‘That was all done, like I said the first step, his first stride coming back towards me. As he is coming towards me, I tell, I keep telling him to get on the ground, he doesn’t.
‘I shoot a series of shots. I don’t know how many I shot, I just know I shot it.
‘I know I missed a couple, I don’t know how many, but I know I hit him at least once because I saw his body kind of jerk or flenched (sic). I remember having tunnel vision on his right hand, that’s all, I’m just focusing on that hand when I was shooting.
‘Well, after the last shot my tunnel vision kind of opened up. I remember seeing the smoke from the gun and I kind of looked at him and he’s still coming at me, he hadn’t slowed down. At this point I start backpedaling and again, I tell him to get on the ground, he doesn’t. I shoot another round of shots. Again, I don’t recall how many it was or if I hit him every time. I know at least once because he flinched again.
‘At this point it looked like he was almost bulking up to run through the shots, like it was making him mad that I’m shooting at him.
‘And the face that he had was looking straight through me, like I wasn’t even there, I wasn’t even anything in his way.
‘Well, he keeps coming at me after that again, during the pause I tell him to get on the ground, get on the ground, he still keeps coming at me, gets about eight to ten feet away. At this point I’m backing up pretty rapidly, I’m backpedaling pretty good because I know if he reaches me, he’ll kill me.
‘And he had started to lean forward as he got that close, like he was going to just tackle me, just go right through me.’
Q: ‘Can you demonstrate for us how he was leaning forward?’
A: ’ His hand was in a fist at his side, this one is in his waistband under his shirt, and he was like this. Just coming straight at me like he was going to run right through me. And when he gets about that eight to ten feet away, I look down, I remember looking at my sites and firing, all I see is his head and that’s what I shot.
‘I don’t know how many, I know at least once because I saw the last one go into him. And then when it went into him, the demeanor on his face when blank, the aggression was gone, it was gone, I mean, I knew he stopped, the threat was stopped.
‘When he fell, he fell on his face. And I remember his feet coming up, like he has do much momentum carrying him forward that when he fell, his feet kind of came up a little big and then they rested.
‘At that point I got back on the radio and said: “send me a supervisor and every car you got.”
If you listen to the audio there are 10 shots, so that is all of them except for the 2 in the car. It only sounds like 2 bursts of fire to me.
LINK
Am I just reading his testimony wrong or did he talk about 3 bursts?
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:21 pm to Rex
I know people have been trying to compare this to the Trayvon Martin case the whole time. Trayvon picked a fight with a wannabe cop who was stalking him in the middle of the night. Mike picked a fight with a cop who simply requested he walk on the sidewalk. Huge difference here alone. Mr. Brown simply did not care for his life it seems... But with all the stories that have came out about this case. I truly do not know what is true or not
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:29 pm to QJenk
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Trayvon picked a fight with a wannabe cop who was stalking him in the middle of the night. Mike picked a fight with a cop who simply requested he walk on the sidewalk. Huge difference here alone. Mr. Brown simply did care for his life it seems.
Let's just leave all facts out
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:29 pm to QJenk
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Mike picked a fight with a cop who simply requested he walk on the sidewalk.
Michael Brown's defenders want to pretend that the incident in the store had no bearing on the later encounter with the policeman. bullshite. It's VERY evidentiary in that it paints a picture of a young man who that day wanted everything his way or no way, with no respect for civil law or authority.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:34 pm to Rex
Do you think Wilson should have been indicted? If so, for what?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:34 pm to 2close2Gainesville
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Do you have sympathy for the actual victims who have to protect themselves against violence, those who provide services, but are treated like shite by people like you. They were right. Liberalism is a disease, and people like you are the reason.
You're an idiot. Rex is agreeing that the officer was justified.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:56 pm to Mac
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Do you think Wilson should have been indicted?
Do you have some notion that I think so? Why?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:02 pm to Rex
Did I ask 'why do you think Wilson should have been indicted?'
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:06 pm to upgrayedd
Rex has been on the side of the officer for a long while for people attacking him based on him being a liberal and assuming he's on browns side.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:07 pm to Mac
Too lazy to read all the evidence. Is this guy's summary bullshite?
Office Darren Wilson's Story is Unbelievable. Literally.
Office Darren Wilson's Story is Unbelievable. Literally.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:09 pm to Mr. Wayne
I wouldn't blame the drug, but Xanax can really cause people to become angry and violent. Stealing, walking in the middle of the street , attacking a cop with a gun.. All very irrational and belligerent behavior. In pre employment tests, Xanax isn't even tested for, including even the extended test.
According to webmd on toxicology reports :
LINK
I'd bet money he was on bars or something. Not that it matters much to the case.
According to webmd on toxicology reports :
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''The first thing we would do is a basic screen for drugs in the urine and in the blood," Magnani says. The search would be for drugs such as opiates, amphetamines, marijuana, alcohol, and barbiturates, she says.
LINK
I'd bet money he was on bars or something. Not that it matters much to the case.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:16 pm to Bunk Moreland
I find Ezra Klein's analysis unbelievable, sorry.
Oh really? We know from the video inside the convenience story that Michael Brown liked to have things his own way, even if that meant lawlessly.
I like you Ezra, but in this case you failed.
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None of this fits with what we know of Michael Brown.
Oh really? We know from the video inside the convenience story that Michael Brown liked to have things his own way, even if that meant lawlessly.
I like you Ezra, but in this case you failed.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:17 pm to Rex
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Oh really? We know from the video inside the convenience story that Michael Brown liked to have things his own way, even if that meant lawlessly.
He also wasn't going to college. He was going to some trade school.
According to Ben Crump, he was going to be a "Heating and Cooling Engineer to work on Air Conditioning."
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:19 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Is this guy's summary bullshite?
Bullshite?
Don't know, but I would say summarizing 70 hours of testimony by so many witnesses to an article with only a few paragraphs of actual statements by one person a bit shortsided. I want to see what the witnesses say. How much of it does or doesn't back up the officer's testimony?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:24 pm to msutiger
I thought it was amusing that a 6'4 210 "brave" cop with a gun was scared shitless by a 6'4 300 pound man.
Sounds like a big ole pussy to me.
But when in doubt, demonize the dead black guy to set yourself free. This tactic has been used for years. Not really surprised by it.
Sounds like a big ole pussy to me.
But when in doubt, demonize the dead black guy to set yourself free. This tactic has been used for years. Not really surprised by it.
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