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re: Will the city of New Orleans be an inhabitable city in 100 years?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:02 am to LSUBoo
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:02 am to LSUBoo
It would be a disaster for the entire country. You couldn't build rail lines from the agricultural states to Houston fast enough. The middle part of the the country lose a lot of our economic competitiveness for years.
Like I said, it's shocking how much we depend on that one structure holding up during flood season.
It held up well in 2011, but it's one of those critical pieces of infrastructure that lacks enough redundancy for comfort.
It's pretty scary to imagine what would happen to New Orleans or the river between there and Pointe Coupee was reduced to a silted up swamp with a narrow, shallow channel for part of the year.
So you can let the River do it's thing and probably help the coast line and improve our ability to weather storms, but you'd also eliminate the reason New Orleans exists in the first place.....which is to be a major port of entry for the river.
Like I said, it's shocking how much we depend on that one structure holding up during flood season.
It held up well in 2011, but it's one of those critical pieces of infrastructure that lacks enough redundancy for comfort.
It's pretty scary to imagine what would happen to New Orleans or the river between there and Pointe Coupee was reduced to a silted up swamp with a narrow, shallow channel for part of the year.
So you can let the River do it's thing and probably help the coast line and improve our ability to weather storms, but you'd also eliminate the reason New Orleans exists in the first place.....which is to be a major port of entry for the river.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:04 am to member12
Shitty thing is that back when they built the ORCS and the levees, they KNEW (obviously) about all of the adverse effects we are seeing/could see in the near future. They essentially said frick it, let's let future generations deal with it. Typical government corruption
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:08 am to Slippy
Until the Corps gets over it's fettish of controlling the flow of the river, the Louisiana coastline will deplete. The diversion projects will do nothing but build a few acres around the divesion sites.
A river is more than the main channel. It is the channel and the flood plane. The river cannot be both "controlled" in the manner the Corps wants and be a land building vessel.
The sediment rich tributaries of the Mississippi such as the Ohio and espescially the sediment rich Missouri rivers have been all but dammed off from the main river channel, so the amount of sediment that shoots into the gulf is inadequate for land building.
For a truly healthy river system the Mississippi and its tributaries need to be allowed to do what rivers do. That makes it extremely challenging to have permanent cities within the flood plain. Places like Houma and Morgan City could not exist.
A river is more than the main channel. It is the channel and the flood plane. The river cannot be both "controlled" in the manner the Corps wants and be a land building vessel.
The sediment rich tributaries of the Mississippi such as the Ohio and espescially the sediment rich Missouri rivers have been all but dammed off from the main river channel, so the amount of sediment that shoots into the gulf is inadequate for land building.
For a truly healthy river system the Mississippi and its tributaries need to be allowed to do what rivers do. That makes it extremely challenging to have permanent cities within the flood plain. Places like Houma and Morgan City could not exist.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:10 am to fightin tigers
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Let me guess what industry was behind this talk..
Please elaborate how the oil companies are responsible for this?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:12 am to stegs_81
Dams have hurt our coast as much as anything. Even with better flow routes in LA, the accretion rates wouldn't match those of the original
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:13 am to stegs_81
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For a truly healthy river system the Mississippi and its tributaries need to be allowed to do what rivers do.
Do that and it will be economic disaster for New Orleans and much of middle America. We can't let the river change course down the Atchafalaya if we want to continue shipping things up River year round to and from New Orleans.
That has to be considered in these tirades about levees blocking sediment deposits. The entire reason New Orleans exists has to be weighed against that. There has to be a way to preserve what we have left without risking our own economic existence.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 10:18 am
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:15 am to stegs_81
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For a truly healthy river system the Mississippi and its tributaries need to be allowed to do what rivers do. That makes it extremely challenging to have permanent cities within the flood plain. Places like Houma and Morgan City could not exist.
That is not going to happen. There is a nice middle gorund that will slow or stop the erosion. I don't think we will ever see new wetlands created but we can preserve what is there now.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:18 am to member12
You know how when you type :babe : you get this preformatted wall of text about babe threads? I feel like Chicken could do the same thing with :neworleans: Have it print out some piss and bum references, some inexplicably furious rednecks, a couple of culture jokes, and some glassman-style nola whiteknighting. Save everyone some time.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 6:52 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Industry pumps a shite load of water, much more than the municipal water supply
Industry used to use ground water exclusively in Baton Rouge but that hasn't been the case for many years. Industries in the chemical corridor along the river located there in part because of the availability of unlimited water supplies from the Mississippi. They don't use ground water.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:56 am to jimbeam
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Dams have hurt our coast as much as anything.
This. You can thank the TVA and WPA for damming the Ohio and to a lesser extent the Mississippi River. The river levees and all of the silt collected behind those dams are the reason for the current coastal erosion.
Want to fix the erosion problem overnight? Blow the levees south of Braithewaite, and pull out all of the dams feeding the Miss. It'll never happen.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 8:00 am to Layabout
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They don't use ground water.
Exactly. So when they start pumping salt water all of the plants between Head of Passes and ORCS are going to be SOL pretty quickly.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 8:09 am to LSUTigersVCURams
I thought it was nearly inhabitable now!
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